07-4-2009, 09:25 PM | #61 |
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no such thing as enough in hard drive, Bandit.
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Rubix that PC is awesome.
But I would get another GTX 295, and then a Physics card, like a GTX 260. I would also make sure you get liquid cooling.
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lol Banditcom, it wasn't a Maxtor was it?
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BAD PhysX cards are stupid and not worth the cost. It's like buying a car and then sticking a forty foot spoiler made of pure money on it. It's just emptying your wallet for minimal performance gains. Besides, there are like, 2 games that support PhysX cards enough to matter. Liquid cooling is also stupid and ricer and COMPLETELY unnecessary. Air cooling is more than adequate for cooling almost 99% of the computers on the planet, and it's much cheaper and less hassle. Last edited by MrGiggles; 07-5-2009 at 02:50 AM.. |
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Can I SLI two totally different cards?
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Nope. SLI only works with 2 IDENTICAL cards. And, most likely, a more powerful PSU, in the 1000 watt range. GPUs eat tons of electricity and spew about as much heat.
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I hope 400W is enough to handle that system.
Would SLI'ing two of those GeForce 295's or whatever pack a pretty good punch in a few years?
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RAM overkill. Also something you might want to consider for speed is having both a normal hardrive, and then an SSHD (Solid State Hard Drive). Will decrease load times by a ton. They're quite expensive so I suggest you get like a 100-250G one and simply put your OS, and games you play often in it. Stuff like music doesn't take much time to load up anyway.
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400 watts? For your computer? Absolutely not. A GTX 260 requires 550W MINIMUM. I'm pretty sure your specs said that it had an 800W PSU though, which should be about enough. One GTX 295 will last you at least half a decade or more before you have to start turning down the default graphics settings. SLIing 295's will buy you another few years, and tri-SLIing another one or two years beyond that, maybe. Unfortunately, they'll also require you to build a case made entirely out of fans or submerged in mineral oil. I'd just replace it entirely after mid-range cards become as powerful as the 295. Then it will be cooler and more friendly towards SLI with the same amount of processing power. Additionally, one card is more powerful than 2 cards half as powerful in SLI. It's not a perfect system, and you lose a bit of efficiency. EDIT: An SSD could be helpful. Personally, I'm divided on them because load times don't bother me a ton and they're quite expensive per gigabyte. However, they have been proven to last longer and have SIGNIFICANTLY faster speeds than conventional drives. They'll probably become the market standard in the future, once the technology has advanced some more. Last edited by MrGiggles; 07-5-2009 at 12:32 AM.. |
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It all depends on what brand the 400W power supply is.
http://www.seasonic.com/product/pc_atx.jsp And yeah 400W is too low. I would go for an 800 personally, but a 650 sounds fine. And for Liquid cooling vs Air cooling. It's all preference and knowledge. If you know what you're doing Air cooling will work, but Liquid cooling is way more efficient most of the time... and it's hardly a hassle.
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Sorry, yes, 800W, my mistake!
And yeah, I figure in the future, if I wanted to get a boost in graphics, I'd just replace the 295 with a better card. It seems like SLI is a good option if I can link two cheaper cards together such that it's of comparable performance to a more expensive card for a cheaper price, but I don't know if this is true or not.
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As for liquid cooling, it can be fun to experiment with, especially if your case is built to handle water cooling. Additionally, you're almost guaranteed to never overheat unless you spring a leak or something and don't notice, which would make you a Class A retard. Unfortunately, it's still cumbersome and unnecessary since air cooling can cover all of your needs, cheaper and with less extraneous equipment. Plus, you don't really need to know what you're doing since most cases come with sufficient fans already installed. |
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Luckily, I've heard some water cooling setups doesn't actually use water anymore. They use another fluid that won't wreck all your parts if it does go haywire. Longevity is increased with water cooling, but if you're planning to maintain the computer, you'll never keep a part for longer than a couple of years anyway. Hard drives, maybe, but air cooling will keep your other parts alive well until after you've replaced them. Last edited by MrGiggles; 07-5-2009 at 02:41 AM.. |
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Air cooling is especially effective if you know how to shape air.
If you can get the airflow to be perfect then it's way more efficient.
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But I'd heard that watercooling will bend air cooling over and rape it silly, without exception, in terms of straight up efficiency. EDIT: Oh wait you meant way more efficient than air cooling where the airflow is ****ed. Like mine. Yeah, if you can manage to turn your case into a wind tunnel you're set. Last edited by MrGiggles; 07-5-2009 at 01:31 AM.. |
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What would the weak points in that system be, if any?
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07-5-2009, 01:49 AM | #78 |
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In terms of cooling? It could be better, but the company that designs and builds that premade will have made sure that it can handle the heat.
If I had to pick out specifics? It looks like it has a 120mm outtake fan in the rear. I can't really see the what's right in front of the HDD's, but it appears to have another 120mm intake fan in the front there. Hopefully it has a dust catching mechanism in front, my last computer died of a dust overdose. That arrangement seems pretty solid for a case that size. The issue that jumps out at me are the side vents. Side vents just plain suck and I don't know why any case has them. They collect dust like hookers collect diseases and they hurt the overall front-to-back airflow. EDIT: Uh, it looks kind of like the side vents are outtake vents for the CPU fan. That removes the dust issue but it still interrupts airflow. Not as much as if they were intakes, but still. In terms of bottlenecks, I don't see any. The HDD, maybe? But that's minor. I don't think there's many things out there that will redline any of your components yet, so it's tough to tell. Last edited by MrGiggles; 07-5-2009 at 01:54 AM.. |
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If your into fast then you could get a SSD. That would improve your speeds by a lot.
(Faster load times, faster windows bootup, faster file access etc...)
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Water cooling also gets algae in it.
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