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Old 11-18-2008, 04:02 AM   #21
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Default Re: Why do something only to quit ?

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Most people share the same opinion with you. I'll try to elaborate my answer:
Regardless of how simple it may sound, every choice or action you do, even the seemingly masochist or illogical ones, are for your own satisfaction, a.k.a. happiness. It doesn't matter if you don't actually believe it, it's more a matter of definition and logic than just generalization.

With "satisfaction" I refer to the purely good feeling itself (the objects that give this feeling may be relative to each person, but the feeling I refer to is the same). The consequence of it's lack is, of course, dissatisfaction, everything that's bad.

The meaning of my life? It's both satisfaction and learning. Everybody's life, actually, because it's not a matter of choice. But this learning is also related to satisfaction.

You shouldn't think that I'm saying it's shallow or meaningless, on the contrary. Everything that you consider "good" or "important" are determined by this feeling. It's what differ us from robots, it's what gives the meaning to everything. Without it, everything would be just "neutral" and unnecessary, and we wouldn't act.

By the way, I like bodybuilding too.
Hell yeah! Bodybuilding FTW!! OK, but now back to the discussion:

I can see how superficially it may appear that it's satisfaction that ultimately governs our life. This would apply to most people. However.... *sigh* I'm having difficulty formulating the words here. Meh, IDK. I guess it depends. After you said that I immediately assumed that was a perspective built around atheism as such a person would inevitably come to the realisation that their life is ultimately meaningless. Regardless of what they might achieve it will be forgotten and thus life should be lived soley for their own pleasure. For their own satisfaction. However you could surely argue that satisfaction is still the root of any motive. Perhaps I find 3 thousand dollars and return it. Although it may have been in my best interest to keep it, I still would get satisfaction out of returning it. lol I guess I agree with you in the end. What a waste of time =P. I guess it's just how I initially perceived it.

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Old 11-18-2008, 04:13 PM   #22
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Hell yeah! Bodybuilding FTW!! OK, but now back to the discussion:

I can see how superficially it may appear that it's satisfaction that ultimately governs our life. This would apply to most people. However.... *sigh* I'm having difficulty formulating the words here. Meh, IDK. I guess it depends. After you said that I immediately assumed that was a perspective built around atheism as such a person would inevitably come to the realisation that their life is ultimately meaningless. Regardless of what they might achieve it will be forgotten and thus life should be lived soley for their own pleasure. For their own satisfaction. However you could surely argue that satisfaction is still the root of any motive. Perhaps I find 3 thousand dollars and return it. Although it may have been in my best interest to keep it, I still would get satisfaction out of returning it. lol I guess I agree with you in the end. What a waste of time =P. I guess it's just how I initially perceived it.

I g2g2 bed now.
Yeah, I'm glad you understand what I meant. I'm a deist, by the way.
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