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  • Rebirth0
    FFR Originalbro
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2003
    • 8751

    #481
    Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

    So this doesn't have anything to do with the pack, but this is the reason I do not play SM5, testing/making files or actually playing.

    I did fairly extensive playtesting on SM5 vs SM3.95.

    Used same speedmods (C830, distant), same resolution (1024x768), same offset, same judge difficulty of course

    (Forgive the shitty scores because I'm bad)
    Song: Exige's End of the Moonlight
    1st Try: SM5, 107perfects
    2nd Try: SM3.95, 54 perfects

    Song: Kil's Marine Drive
    1st Try: SM3.95, 84 perfects 22 greats
    2nd Try: SM5 , 123p 11g
    3rd Try: SM5, 82p 23g
    4th Try: SM5, 61p 10g
    5th Try: SM3.95, 52p 8g

    Song: hayden's Angel Eyes [Done on SMO]
    Offline SM3.95 try: 16p
    1st Try: SM3.95: 16p
    Offset stats: +356/-258 1.728ms
    2nd Try: SM5, 27p (The website says 25p)
    Offset stats: +328/-263 1.558ms
    3rd Try: SM5, 29p (The website says 27p)
    Offset stats: +318/-294 0.611ms
    4th Try: SM3.95, 15p (The website says 14p)
    Offset stats: +327/-286 1.008ms

    Offset explanation: the positive numbers are how many notes I hit above the receptor (More than 0.000ms early). Negative numbers are how many I hit below (late) the receptors. The ms number is on average how offbeat I was.

    This is an actual playing test where human error is possible, but I am very fucking consistent on Angel Eyes and the results were clear.

    Verdict: Based on playing alone, SM5 is retarded and I will never use it

    It appears the game doesn't use the exact same judging window that the previous versions do. Why would I play the version that gives me worse scores given how consistent I was in the online testing.
    Last edited by Rebirth0; 07-21-2014, 11:45 AM.

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    • Kraezymann
      Forum User
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2003
      • 1640

      #482
      Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

      To hell with it... submitting my first real file in years!
      Last edited by Kraezymann; 07-21-2014, 11:54 AM.
      Twitch | Stepping Stones 2! | Stepping Stones 3! | Stepping Stones 4!

      Submit to this -

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      • Izzy
        Snek
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jan 2003
        • 9195

        #483
        Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

        Originally posted by Rebirth0
        It appears the game doesn't use the exact same judging window that the previous versions do.
        The timing windows in the stepmania.ini are exactly the same. The game has some weirdly different feel to it that fucks me up though.

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        • kommisar
          Dark Chancellor
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Jun 2005
          • 7328

          #484
          Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

          it's entirely mental, or your computer just can't run it properly

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          • choof
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #485
            Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

            Originally posted by Rebirth0
            Used same speedmods (C830, distant), same resolution (1024x768), same offset, same judge difficulty of course

            This is an actual playing test where human error is possible, but I am very fucking consistent on Angel Eyes and the results were clear.

            Verdict: Based on playing alone, SM5 is retarded and I will never use it

            It appears the game doesn't use the exact same judging window that the previous versions do. Why would I play the version that gives me worse scores given how consistent I was in the online testing.
            you will need to change your speedmod, the sm5 playing field is longer. I had the same issue when I changed, until I changed speedmod (played something like c700 on sm3.9, currently play c870 on sm5)

            alternatively, you're a stepmania relic and continue to hold onto old ideas because you're a stubborn shit

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            • kommisar
              Dark Chancellor
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Jun 2005
              • 7328

              #486
              Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

              there's more reading space yeah. it's like comparing pump pro to pump fiesta. pump pro has like 25% smaller reading space. I read higher cmods on sm5 compared to what I had on 3.95

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              • Tyson ultima
                Autismspeaks.gov
                • Nov 2006
                • 1421

                #487
                Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                Why don't we all play IIDX

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                • choof
                  Banned
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 8563

                  #488
                  Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                  because iidx is for dirty hood rats like u

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                  • Izzy
                    Snek
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 9195

                    #489
                    Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                    Originally posted by choof
                    you will need to change your speedmod, the sm5 playing field is longer. I had the same issue when I changed, until I changed speedmod (played something like c700 on sm3.9, currently play c870 on sm5)
                    This is what I told him. I suggested turning on the bar at the bottom of the screen to cut the screen length to match 3.9.

                    Originally posted by choof
                    alternatively, you're a stepmania relic and continue to hold onto old ideas because you're a stubborn shit
                    It's like you purposefully ignore the point of testing them both to see how they compare so you can insult someone.

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                    • choof
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 8563

                      #490
                      Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                      I wouldn't really call playing two different games with the same settings "testing"

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                      • stargroup100
                        behanjc & me are <3'ers
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 2051

                        #491
                        Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                        are we gonna break into argument over every goddamn little thing are we reddit or youtube or something

                        some people like 3.9 and some people like 5, who cares what someone prefers it's basically the same game

                        it'd be a different matter entirely if we were discussing how this pertains to the usage of sm5 exclusive features for chart-making (like this pack for instance)
                        Rhythm Simulation Guide
                        Comments, criticism, suggestions, contributions, etc. are all welcome.

                        Piano Etude Demon Fire sheet music

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                        • kommisar
                          Dark Chancellor
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 7328

                          #492
                          Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                          you can add xmods to one chart

                          and no xmods to another chart


                          for the same song


                          holy shit it's 2014

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                          • rCaliberGX
                            D7 Elite Keymasher
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 2337

                            #493
                            Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                            Originally posted by kommisar
                            you can add xmods to one chart

                            and no xmods to another chart


                            for the same song


                            holy shit it's 2014
                            and you can also make it so xmods only work on sm5 and still have it run perfectly fine with no mods on other versions

                            Released!

                            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                            you look like you're dSucks

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                            • choof
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 8563

                              #494
                              Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                              sm5 is objectively better than 3.9, sorry 2 burst ur bubbles

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                              • kommisar
                                Dark Chancellor
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 7328

                                #495
                                Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

                                holy shit I thought I typed that for a sec

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