Does FFR run too slow? Small solution inside. *edited 10/23*

SotN · 02-22-2003, 03:09 AM

Note: Sorry, I forgot this thread existed. I actually found out this info months ago, but never posted it.

Becuase of the way Opera loads files, this doesnt work well with 56k. Broadband recommended strongly.

After much testing, I have concluded that this method for increasing speed is useless. Because of the way Opera loads files, all songs have a 70% chance of being off-beat, which pretty much offsets the benefits gained.

You see, the speed of FFR is limited by your processor, but if you reduce the demand on the processor, it'll run faster.

A way to do this is to make the FFR window smaller. To do this, we need to use Opera (only ver 6) or any other browser that has a zoom-in function. You can skip down to the bolded text if you do.

To get Opera go here
1 go to download
2 go to opear archive section, on the top right
3 click on the folder with the name of you operating system
4 select version (605 is recommended, this trick does not work ith 701)
5 click the folder with the intials of the language you want Ex. en= English
6 if you have java installed already, click std. if not, click java. If unsure, click java and install it anyway.
7 download and install

Now, for the actual trick.
1 load up FFR (the window may not display for some users, but it will fix in the next step)
2. go up to the zoom function, and select anything lower than 100%. 80% seems to work best.

The FFR window will be smaller, but it will run much smoother. It's up to you to find balance.

FAQ

1) Why doesnt opera load songs? FFR loads fine, but then when I click on a song, it immediatly goes to 100% and starts playing. But there's no background and the steps are horribly off-beat.

This is why broadband is recommended, and it has to do with the way Opera loads files. There is no fix for this, and there never will be.

2) FFR doesnt even load up, there's just a blank space where the FFR window should be.

you need to install Flash 7

NessTormented · 02-24-2003, 12:23 PM

I am write single to salute and wait for answer again.

I think that would have help alot of people, thank you sotn.

Also, if you have some of the programs in the background, it would better to close them. And have one browser at a time.

SotN's steps also have work weith some forms onf netscape/

**Freak83** · 02-24-2003, 03:21 PM

It'd be nice to be able to lower the quality even more. Like maybe have that button set to go up to 5 instead of 3. At 2 the backgrounds would be gone, and at 1 the music would be gone as well as the backgrounds. The reason for this being I like to play this at school during TIK (computer programming where we don't do anything yet), but they don't have sound and are soooo bad that I still end up missing half the arrows on Mario with the quality on one. We can't download anything on them either.

NessTormented · 02-26-2003, 09:01 AM

That was already been posted in suggestions.

Also, this is the bug report....

But to another bug, in some of song when you play the middle of it its freeze and everything stops and if you hit over it goes to main screen of the gfame.

dave · 04-4-2003, 06:58 AM

hey I just realized that ness tormented your sig is the kirby dance

KOOL

Arch0wl · 04-7-2003, 06:55 PM

I can't find 605 for windows

SotN · 04-7-2003, 09:53 PM

http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/win/605/en/

java= version with Java (install this if you're installing opera for the first time, if you're not sure, download this anyways)

std= verison without, only if you already have java.

CMCAdvanced · 04-8-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave

hey I just realized that ness tormented your sig is the kirby dance

KOOL

You just realized that.

muzzyterry · 04-26-2003, 01:39 AM

the ffr songs dont show up on Opera, can anyone of you guys help me out?

SotN · 04-26-2003, 04:27 PM

do you hear the music in the background? if you do, change the zoom from 100 to some other number, it'll force the FFR screen to show up.

if you don't, well, I've never heard of this happening, and haven't had it happen to me myself.

muzzyterry · 04-26-2003, 11:27 PM

the only things that show up are the arrows on the top and the background banners for some songs, and the only thing that i hear is the applause and cheering the the beginning of each song, then it's a stalemate and i have to press random arrows to quit the game.
the thing is the songs dont load, that might be why the steps arent there.

Mandragora · 05-8-2003, 01:30 PM

So will that solve the problems of the arrows being off beat with the music that occurs in every single song? I'm running a 980 mhz P3 processor (I know it's outdated so any schmuck who wants to remind me can go ahead and go down as an idiot in my book). All I'm saying is that it seems ridiculous that I'd have to have a top-of-the-line processor simply to be able to play without getting screwed on the arrows.

CMCAdvanced · 10-1-2003, 05:42 PM

I have opera now. This was way before now though...

**Moogy** · 10-1-2003, 08:44 PM

Ok great, you just bumped a thread posted in Feb., with the last post being in May. Now people will post on it again and stuff...

Shinryuu · 10-12-2003, 10:28 AM

You can just go into the temporary internet files and run FFR. You dont need opera.

LaVa · 10-23-2003, 11:06 AM

AArgh!
So I'd have to get an older version of Opera just to play this.
I have 7.01. It was all screwy. Either the song loaded or a random stepfile did, but they never appeared together. After I got mozilla some of the songs work, though I have to load the music and fail once. All of the songs I've tried are quite offbeat. :-\
And this is with Athlon 1700+.

SotN · 10-23-2003, 07:13 PM

Yeah, sorry about that. I been meaning to edit this with new information for quite awhile.

rainbowrocker · 11-28-2003, 11:40 PM

my problem is that i'll play a couple games and then the next song won't load at all. this has happened a few times and i had to keep refreshing. now it just logs me out after a couple games. help?

rainbowrocker · 11-29-2003, 12:43 AM

well, now it got better.. oh well. i'd still like to know what was wrong though so maybe i can fix it if it happens again.

Nethri · 04-20-2004, 11:11 AM

My problem might not aplly to this topic, , but it does deal with FFR running slowly, so I put it here. Sorry in advance if this is the wrong place.

My problem is with the Party4u Holynight remix song purchased from the FFR Shop.

The first time I load up the song, it plays normally. However, if I choose "Try this level again" after the song, it plays at about half the speed and without music. I've not had this problem before Version .675

Please advise, while I'd love to get a great (for me) score on that song, I'd really like to do it legitimately!

Thanks in advance!
~Nethri

02-22-2003, 03:09 AM	#1
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	Does FFR run too slow? Small solution inside. edited 10/23 Note: Sorry, I forgot this thread existed. I actually found out this info months ago, but never posted it. Becuase of the way Opera loads files, this doesnt work well with 56k. Broadband recommended strongly. After much testing, I have concluded that this method for increasing speed is useless. Because of the way Opera loads files, all songs have a 70% chance of being off-beat, which pretty much offsets the benefits gained. You see, the speed of FFR is limited by your processor, but if you reduce the demand on the processor, it'll run faster. A way to do this is to make the FFR window smaller. To do this, we need to use Opera (only ver 6) or any other browser that has a zoom-in function. You can skip down to the bolded text if you do. To get Opera go here 1 go to download 2 go to opear archive section, on the top right 3 click on the folder with the name of you operating system 4 select version (605 is recommended, this trick does not work ith 701) 5 click the folder with the intials of the language you want Ex. en= English 6 if you have java installed already, click std. if not, click java. If unsure, click java and install it anyway. 7 download and install Now, for the actual trick. 1 load up FFR (the window may not display for some users, but it will fix in the next step) 2. go up to the zoom function, and select anything lower than 100%. 80% seems to work best. The FFR window will be smaller, but it will run much smoother. It's up to you to find balance. FAQ 1) Why doesnt opera load songs? FFR loads fine, but then when I click on a song, it immediatly goes to 100% and starts playing. But there's no background and the steps are horribly off-beat. This is why broadband is recommended, and it has to do with the way Opera loads files. There is no fix for this, and there never will be. 2) FFR doesnt even load up, there's just a blank space where the FFR window should be. you need to install Flash 7

02-24-2003, 12:23 PM	#2
NessTormented FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Orb or a home that can nature nurture Age: 37 Posts: 273	I am write single to salute and wait for answer again. I think that would have help alot of people, thank you sotn. Also, if you have some of the programs in the background, it would better to close them. And have one browser at a time. SotN's steps also have work weith some forms onf netscape/ __________________

02-26-2003, 09:01 AM	#4
NessTormented FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Orb or a home that can nature nurture Age: 37 Posts: 273	That was already been posted in suggestions. Also, this is the bug report.... But to another bug, in some of song when you play the middle of it its freeze and everything stops and if you hit over it goes to main screen of the gfame. __________________

04-4-2003, 06:58 AM	#5
dave FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 245	hey I just realized that ness tormented your sig is the kirby dance KOOL __________________ The Dawn Of A New Day Has Come And My Reign Of Terror Continues!!!!!

04-7-2003, 09:53 PM	#7
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/win/605/en/ java= version with Java (install this if you're installing opera for the first time, if you're not sure, download this anyways) std= verison without, only if you already have java. __________________ 209

02-24-2003, 03:21 PM	#3
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	It'd be nice to be able to lower the quality even more. Like maybe have that button set to go up to 5 instead of 3. At 2 the backgrounds would be gone, and at 1 the music would be gone as well as the backgrounds. The reason for this being I like to play this at school during TIK (computer programming where we don't do anything yet), but they don't have sound and are soooo bad that I still end up missing half the arrows on Mario with the quality on one. We can't download anything on them either.

04-7-2003, 06:55 PM	#6
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 37 Posts: 6,344	I can't find 605 for windows

04-26-2003, 01:39 AM	#9
muzzyterry FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 17	the ffr songs dont show up on Opera, can anyone of you guys help me out?

04-26-2003, 04:27 PM	#10
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	do you hear the music in the background? if you do, change the zoom from 100 to some other number, it'll force the FFR screen to show up. if you don't, well, I've never heard of this happening, and haven't had it happen to me myself. __________________ 209

04-26-2003, 11:27 PM	#11
muzzyterry FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 17	the only things that show up are the arrows on the top and the background banners for some songs, and the only thing that i hear is the applause and cheering the the beginning of each song, then it's a stalemate and i have to press random arrows to quit the game. the thing is the songs dont load, that might be why the steps arent there.

05-8-2003, 01:30 PM	#12
Mandragora FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 44	So will that solve the problems of the arrows being off beat with the music that occurs in every single song? I'm running a 980 mhz P3 processor (I know it's outdated so any schmuck who wants to remind me can go ahead and go down as an idiot in my book). All I'm saying is that it seems ridiculous that I'd have to have a top-of-the-line processor simply to be able to play without getting screwed on the arrows.

10-1-2003, 05:42 PM	#13
CMCAdvanced FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York Posts: 473	I have opera now. This was way before now though... __________________ Signatures are ignorant.

10-1-2003, 08:44 PM	#14
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	Ok great, you just bumped a thread posted in Feb., with the last post being in May. Now people will post on it again and stuff... __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

10-12-2003, 10:28 AM	#15
Shinryuu FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 10	You can just go into the temporary internet files and run FFR. You dont need opera.

10-23-2003, 11:06 AM	#16
LaVa FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4	AArgh! So I'd have to get an older version of Opera just to play this. I have 7.01. It was all screwy. Either the song loaded or a random stepfile did, but they never appeared together. After I got mozilla some of the songs work, though I have to load the music and fail once. All of the songs I've tried are quite offbeat. :-\ And this is with Athlon 1700+.

10-23-2003, 07:13 PM	#17
SotN FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,159	Yeah, sorry about that. I been meaning to edit this with new information for quite awhile. __________________ 209

11-28-2003, 11:40 PM	#18
rainbowrocker FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2	my problem is that i'll play a couple games and then the next song won't load at all. this has happened a few times and i had to keep refreshing. now it just logs me out after a couple games. help?

11-29-2003, 12:43 AM	#19
rainbowrocker FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2	well, now it got better.. oh well. i'd still like to know what was wrong though so maybe i can fix it if it happens again.

04-20-2004, 11:11 AM	#20
Nethri FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8	My problem might not aplly to this topic, , but it does deal with FFR running slowly, so I put it here. Sorry in advance if this is the wrong place. My problem is with the Party4u Holynight remix song purchased from the FFR Shop. The first time I load up the song, it plays normally. However, if I choose "Try this level again" after the song, it plays at about half the speed and without music. I've not had this problem before Version .675 Please advise, while I'd love to get a great (for me) score on that song, I'd really like to do it legitimately! Thanks in advance! ~Nethri __________________

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