TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

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  • the sun fan
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2017
    • 656

    #796
    Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by leetic
    After a certain point, you should realize that there comes a time when you should trust the process. Plus, the answers I gave should have been satisfactory, you're not going to make it long on MU if you have a crashout over every not-super-well-explained read. Nevertheless, at least you were able to back off in the end, I was seriously considering claiming despite knowing how bad an idea it would've been before you made the sleep play. Anyway, yeah this can wait to postgame
    my tl;dr is that you should have made something up as the seer
    town can and should lie there
    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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    • leetic
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2020
      • 7

      #797
      Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

      So Botchi's greenchecked, sunfan is un-cc'd, that just leaves MML or roundbox as Raeko's partner. You know how much I want to believe it's roundbox but I believe both options should be interrogated fairly

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      • leetic
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2020
        • 7

        #798
        Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

        Originally posted by the sun fan
        my tl;dr is that you should have made something up as the seer
        town can and should lie there
        "It looked like how they posted in a previous towngame", "I though it was a potential blue soft", "it's just a early D1 read that I threw around to get things going" should have all been satisfactory answers here. If you can't accept those it's a you problem

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        • leetic
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2020
          • 7

          #799
          Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by the sun fan
          leetic

          I know this is a biased question I am asking you

          this is even a bad question

          this is where I selfishly think I extract things that few people can (though I'm also rusty and old and bad etc)

          do you think you, as a wolf, ever give me a 2nd piece of fruit last night? with any partner?
          No, because it increases the risk of getting seered for no mechanical gain

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          • leetic
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2020
            • 7

            #800
            Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

            And that's probably what happened here

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            • the sun fan
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 656

              #801
              Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

              I'm pretty sure it is Lar if you're real, honestly

              roundbox's frustration at not having the time yesterday felt very, very townie in a way that I don't know I am like
              ever going to be able to convince anyone else of

              I'm sure you're frustrated with raeko/roundbox lack of reads one another, and imo, they have historically been rather good at reading one another

              Lar reacted kind of strange to the sleep thing yesterday, he kinda caved too quickly. Things from there started to really unravel, like I think, in Larlanguage, that he ISO'd Hopecaster to control any potential narrative on Hopecaster's legacy before anyone else could. There was something else... I don't remember it but anyways

              I think my reads were likely dogshit at the beginning of this game, potentially the worst they've ever been in a turbo; no wonder they fruit'd me
              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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              • the sun fan
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2017
                • 656

                #802
                Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by leetic
                No, because it increases the risk of getting seered for no mechanical gain
                the very, very, very, very interesting thing is, I think the answer is yes, you do (certainly not saying you did, I believe you're very likely real)
                TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                • leetic
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 7

                  #803
                  Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  the very, very, very, very interesting thing is, I think the answer is yes, you do (certainly not saying you did, I believe you're very likely real)
                  Why

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                  • the sun fan
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 656

                    #804
                    Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                    leetic, if you're fake, and you delayed the kill AND gave me a piece of fruit so that you can more convincingly claim a red on someone to push this over for the win, that's the world where I think you give me a 2nd piece of fruit

                    truly a diabolical machination, like I love, love, love how that could potentially be weaponized, I hope you're a wolf and did that
                    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                    • the sun fan
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 656

                      #805
                      Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                      the real answer is probably that raeko whimsically gave me a 2nd piece of fruit but like
                      her reaction will mean a lot here, if this is a reaction check, I suspect her reaction will be a very good one
                      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                      • the sun fan
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 656

                        #806
                        Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        There was something else... I don't remember it but anyways
                        remembered
                        I didn't like how quickly and unwaveringly lar assumed I was always town for getting a piece of fruit

                        It didn't feel natural... or maybe it doesn't in hindsight, that might be the better way of putting it
                        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                        • leetic
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 7

                          #807
                          Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                          Like the way my role works is that I only get a result on the day that a target uses an action (otherwise it is delayed, as with Botchi, who is cleared because we know wolves didn't delay N1). Since they decided to delay the kill this phase, I wouldn't have been able to seer the Malice Wolf last night. It's only because Raeko, the PFVW, chose to send a fruit that a red seering was even possible N2. This is the kind of mistake that is only made by a mechanically unaware wolf team.

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                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 656

                            #808
                            Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                            Originally posted by leetic
                            This is the kind of mistake that is only made by a mechanically unaware wolf team.
                            or it is the kind of proactive, frankly genius level play made by a wolfteam that attempts to win by setting up a red

                            I wanna go back and check if raeko said anything to me about blueberries when I claimed it
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                            • leetic
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 7

                              #809
                              Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                              How mechanically aware is MML usually? Given roundbox's apparent lack of WIM I wouldn't put it past him to make this mistake regardless of how his meta usually is. I guess a slightly angleshooty case could be made that a Raeko/roundbox team would theoretically have more WIM, but I remember another wolfteam that contained a real-life couple on the Syndicate flopping hard as well

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                              • leetic
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2020
                                • 7

                                #810
                                Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                He's at school AND he has to stay late today (isn't being a teacher awesome?)

                                If you have another reason you think he's wolfy I'm all ears, but he dipped because he had to sleep then go to work and I can't really fault him for that

                                I don't want to use too much info that you guys don't have but it's hard when we live in the same house haha


                                You asked me for that reads list and then vote for me right away, almost like you just wanted something to nitpick at me for, and have a big long list to choose a random reason to place a vote on me

                                hmmmmmm
                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                because it's been a waste of time for the most part
                                I guess you can also say that posts like these feel really pockety towards roundbox

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