TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

Holy wallpost, Batman

Reading now but skimming it, I think it's icky that HnH ises Haku defense of them to the tone of like three paragraphs and then votes him when he knows Haku can't defend himself

Very fucking icky

bro you voted weiss when that poor bastard I have a green check on couldn't defend himself either

more seriously, this is funny (as in humorous) to see you post this considering I know you were traumatized that one game you got voterushed as an afk blue, but I don't remember you feeling that way about other people being voted when afk?

I could be forgetting
I should probably just stop trying to remember things and go back to vibing

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

I genuinely think this is a legit hakuplan

...ok I am forced to give this more credence than I initially gave it

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

It's a good gamble:

- harmless buss towards you if you're the partner (I don't even care about it being leetic, you, mml, ara or whatever)
- if leetic doesn't unvote, he looks fucking good
- low risk high reward if the strat is to bet on not being lynched due to unvote
- Would still probably not unvote and probably would be fine
- the things he says are good, the things he does are not. One is tangible, the other is literally all deception if wolf

It doesn't matter if haku is an untouchable god to me gameplay wise because he left the game while unvoted and I don't see him in ANY universe allowing this to happen

I think I don't understand the argument, that or it's absolutely bonkers and you're making it up as you go along

You claim it doesn't matter who Haku's partner is but you re argument is reliant that Haku's partner IS Sunfan
Otherwise why does the non vote matter again?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

Does nobody else think it's weird in this specific game for HAKU to allow himself not to have a vote, where we all know that if he is VT and we lynch him, there's a 1 in 3 chance to fucking nuke another town, and that he knows we know because he brought it up himself?

I totally understand not wanting to lynch someone that can't defend themselves, but come on?

....he's done it before?

[Hateandhatred]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

I think I don't understand the argument, that or it's absolutely bonkers and you're making it up as you go along

You claim it doesn't matter who Haku's partner is but you re argument is reliant that Haku's partner IS Sunfan
Otherwise why does the non vote matter again?

What are you saying dude?!

It doesn't matter who Haku's partner is. I thought it might be sunfan because I see this plan happening with haku solowolfing with afk weiss. But that doesn't matter because it's haku I'm talking about.

Haku KNOWS extremely well that we wouldn't vote him out mechanically if he's unvoted. That's why we didn't want to vote weiss out for you!

If he's wolfing, he's fucking winning because he's now unkillable because we have to live with the risk that a mislynch of him has a 1/3 chance to kill another town - it's not even a loose cannon but a guaranteed extra town death

I don't think town haku EVER leaves this game unvoted. I don't think there's a chance of that ever happening, because he knows if he somehow dies for whatever reason and isn't around to defend himself, and he's the vengeful spirit, he's guaranteed to result into another town death and town loses!

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

bro you voted weiss when that poor bastard I have a green check on couldn't defend himself either

more seriously, this is funny (as in humorous) to see you post this considering I know you were traumatized that one game you got voterushed as an afk blue, but I don't remember you feeling that way about other people being voted when afk?

I could be forgetting
I should probably just stop trying to remember things and go back to vibing

You remember half of that correctly. I had like 100 post I just wasn't around for the last 10 hours of a phase in like a 72 hour phase and people went from no sus to murder with a quickness

That was the game Charu had a big hissy fit about minimum post requirements and started posted the alphabet, too (or was like around the same time frame)

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

I am tipping my hand rn but hateandhatred (henceforth referred to as sven) is probably my 2nd top town and I don't really like the way that it feels like this phase is headed between him and I

I should firstly say that there is a sizable distance between him and haku in terms of how strongly I townread them, like really big
I could end this phase voting for sven and feel good about it, and I didn't have a particularly strong townread on him before (it was a scumread even)
but his post where he feels like he needs to remain committed to the game, even if he isn't happy with his role

idk man

it just feels like the vanilla town-flavored truth and not something a wolf brewed up

his vote on haku also feels like townsven just sussing something out, again, I'm not sure if I can word this right, but that kind of thought process seems hard for a wolf to genuinely fake

I know sven is more mechanics-focused, and the vote/push is mechanics based
it is just a bit more like... creative? than wolves normally are

fwiw I do think sven's last eod where he waffled before claiming VT was sus, maybe I should ask him about that idk
sven when you read this can you talk about what was going through your mind when (I think it was leetic?) asked you if you were a role?

to me, it literally felt like you went into wolfchat and asked your partner what you should do

[Hateandhatred]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

Actually maybe 1/4 because OP doesn't state if vengeful gives us a full cardflip, so maybe raeko was it and we don't know. OP only mentions their role pm, though.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

You remember half of that correctly. I had like 100 post I just wasn't around for the last 10 hours of a phase in like a 72 hour phase and people went from no sus to murder with a quickness

That was the game Charu had a big hissy fit about minimum post requirements and started posted the alphabet, too (or was like around the same time frame)

the game where charu posted the alphabet was a different one iirc, that was cancelled on d2 because it just like...
was so imbalanced and off-brand that it essentially wasn't mafia, it was a waste of time (sorry atrnoach or however you spell your name if you're out there)

but I was more asking about you caring about when other people can get rushed when they are afk

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

What are you saying dude?!

It doesn't matter who Haku's partner is. I thought it might be sunfan because I see this plan happening with haku solowolfing with afk weiss. But that doesn't matter because it's haku I'm talking about.

Haku KNOWS extremely well that we wouldn't vote him out mechanically if he's unvoted. That's why we didn't want to vote weiss out for you!

If he's wolfing, he's fucking winning because he's now unkillable because we have to live with the risk that a mislynch of him has a 1/3 chance to kill another town - it's not even a loose cannon but a guaranteed extra town death

I don't think town haku EVER leaves this game unvoted. I don't think there's a chance of that ever happening, because he knows if he somehow dies for whatever reason and isn't around to defend himself, and he's the vengeful spirit, he's guaranteed to result into another town death and town loses!

Ok I think I see what you're saying

We didn't not kill Weiss because he didn't have a vote out, we didn't not kill Weiss because he didn't make any content whatsoever

This doesn't apply to Haku, and Haku has played the game long enough to know FFR loves to lynch players who miss EOD so long as they have posts

There's no indication that Haku feels, or has ever felt in past games, that if he doesn't vote then we'll policy save him

[Hateandhatred]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

sven when you read this can you talk about what was going through your mind when (I think it was leetic?) asked you if you were a role?

to me, it literally felt like you went into wolfchat and asked your partner what you should do

I was shocked man, I had 5 minutes to think about it. He could have been PR hunting us.

Also that's horseshit, didn't you tell me wolfchat was normally off during the day when we did the cold steel twg and I had to specify that it wouldn't be?

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

Actually maybe 1/4 because OP doesn't state if vengeful gives us a full cardflip, so maybe raeko was it and we don't know. OP only mentions their role pm, though.

cardflips are full role flips as mentioned near the top of the post, so yes, raeko would have flipped as vengeful if she was vengeful

[Hateandhatred]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

We didn't not kill Weiss because he didn't have a vote out

I've never felt like crying this much over twg

greg I now know your pain

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

I was shocked man, I had 5 minutes to think about it. He could have been PR hunting us.

Also that's horseshit, didn't you tell me wolfchat was normally off during the day when we did the cold steel twg and I had to specify that it wouldn't be?

I'm not going to remember my exact words; on A LOT of sites wolfchat is normally off during the day, yeah.

However, on ffr it is almost always on, I really hate when it isn't and it is one of my biggest pet peeves, even if the flavor for it is hard to justify or w/e

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

I've never felt like crying this much over twg

greg I now know your pain

no you don't