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08-25-2023, 09:37 AM | #21 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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08-25-2023, 09:47 AM | #22 | |
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But it screamed new player, hahaha AND you were a wolf. I would've probably never suspected you. |
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08-25-2023, 09:57 AM | #23 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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08-25-2023, 11:38 AM | #24 | |
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When lar mentioned Raeko I jumped on it. I knew it was Mellon_Collie, but if I pretended I didn't know and one of us was found out then it made the other less likely to be suspected. At least, that had been my logic lol. I unfortunately can't do that ever again though. |
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08-25-2023, 11:48 AM | #25 | |
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08-25-2023, 11:50 AM | #26 | |
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I was starting to really enjoy it and getting comfortable and I was growing more confident. I wish the game lasted longer, but that was enough to convince me to possibly play again in the future! Everyone was awesome to me, thank you! (Though that was probably mostly because I wasn't suspected hehe) |
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08-25-2023, 12:20 PM | #27 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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Arp was a main target and that was the majority of D2 Then it was the inactives Go look at the timestamps and the absolute (moe) gap in the post count numbers I reject that I could have rallied realistically any harder |
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08-25-2023, 12:20 PM | #28 | |
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08-25-2023, 12:21 PM | #29 |
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08-25-2023, 12:22 PM | #30 |
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That post probably comes off as angrier then I would ever be over post game criticism but like
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08-25-2023, 12:25 PM | #31 |
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08-25-2023, 01:43 PM | #32 | |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
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Ergo, Lar. And it almost worked because I think wolves had the exact same idea for a while. (and arguably, did it anyway just with Haku instead of Lar) As for N2, I have my little notepad screenshotted and posted in deadchat, so you can see my logic there. |
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08-25-2023, 04:14 PM | #33 | |
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we're always glad newer players are playing, ofc when sven proposed this setup to me, I was immediately very worried that it would have this problem and a bit more, but I'm glad we got a game out of it, even if it feels like there was more game to be played
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08-25-2023, 04:20 PM | #34 | |
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2) I wanted to stop the stuff with ciphers minutes earlier, and I was talking to sven about it, and he wanted to let it play out. I agreed to let that happen, but then I saw you actually getting a wolfread on Arp (or trying to develop one), and felt like it had already tainted that moment of the game a little bit. Firstly, FFR is an English only forum, and while arguments can be made that Al Bhed is just a modified form of English, let's just like think about the spirit of the game, right? You preface your post saying that you can kinda see it, right? Could it have waited until postgame? I guess... I did want to make it so that the topic didn't come up again, and I do recognize that I did this with one thing (ciphers) and not another (copy/pasting jailor chat). If the jailor chat thing came up again, I was going to make a post about it, and honestly, I think I deserve at least some criticism because the jailor stuff was more pressing. 3) just a quick point; do you happen to know why you thought copy/pasting private chats has always been legal? It very explicitly hasn't been for a long time now, probably close to a decade.
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08-25-2023, 04:29 PM | #35 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
after seeing the game play out, I think town really did make a big mistake by killing no one on the first day
it feels like less of a mistake than it basically ever has been to kill no one, so there's that at least I'd probably feel tempted to do it myself, because the chance of the game just ending because of a millium claim would undo a lot of sven's efforts and that would fill me with a kind of guilt or remorse
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08-25-2023, 05:03 PM | #36 | |
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2 I just don't think anything negative was happening because of it. My read and prodding on Arp is completely legitimate because it was using information that was in thread, I don't get how a read is suddenly not in the spirit of the game because it's using something not accepted in English. I understand, thinking on it, we dont want players to use code/languages to withhold information from some players, but it still rubs me wrong to have the rule change mod game when that wasn't happening--Lord knows if anyone didn't get it they could ask, and the joke was basically me picking on Xel (which means, legally speaking, I read Arp based on reactions to shitposting which is totally legal 👌 i just dont understand how this was negatively impacting the game Actually half of D2's post were basically about it? Seems it helped if anything 3 Screenshots were never allowed for sure. Copy/paste has been for chats but not role PMs? God knows you could copy anything in Trailer Park Boys |
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08-25-2023, 07:21 PM | #37 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
your read was on something that shouldn't have been in the thread in the first place, because ciphers don't belong in TWG. I am CERTAINLY not accusing anyone of using ciphers for anything other than good, clean fun. But its something where I would rather draw the line much, much earlier than any place where the lines could be muddied or something. The talk of ciphers was, honestly, positively impacting the game, so I can accept that stepping in and saying something was a negative for the game, but I would argue that it is a fairly necessary one for game integrity.
-------------------------------------------------------------- ahhhhh, I see where the confusion happens for OOTC games, this is good to have this now rather than later so I know what to do for the wording of the rule. Copy/pasting has been traditionally legal in OOTC games, I kinda really don't like that rule personally, but it should be up to the mod. This is the exception, rather than the rule, and its why you remember Trailer Park Boys the way you do. Rule 2 of FFRTWG: 2) A player may not post their role PM, in part or in full, or any other communication they may have had with the host. Threatening to post your PM is not allowed. A player may not make reference to any communication they may have had with the host. You may not post, in part or in full, any part of any private conversation you may have had (wolfchat or masonchat). All of the above refers to quoting directly using the forum feature, posting a screenshot or screenshots, attempting to determine alignments by asking someone how their PM was worded, etc. HOWEVER, it is contrasted with rule 2a 2a) Players ARE however, allowed to post private conversations with other players, so long as the rules of the game permit this (In game where Out of Thread communication is legal). It is also legal to produce fake conversations. ------------------------------ this is, confusing, I can see that now. What is a masonchat, or a jailorchat, other than a discussion with another player? This will be remedied before the next game begins. If you (or anyone) has any suggestions for how to make this distinction clearer, I'd love to hear it.
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If we're changing that moving forward, that doesn't change this game's use of it or it's context. Quote:
BUT I get some setups this isn't gonna fly, so we should handle it like the other rules and just have the host turn it on and off. So by default, it's how you describe it: no sharing, period, of host made and monitored chats. That makes OOTC sharing on by default without any other work. Then we just make a rule that overrides it Something like "Information Share" or whatever. No pics, but otherwise sharing is on (it's important to me that it still be possible to fake the logs for the majority of players, The way I think you feel about ciphers is how I feel about letting town provide hard evidence about their PMs/Logs So then in sign ups it's easy to tell where we sit Insta Lynch: On KitB: On Phantoms: Off OOTC: On Info Share: Off |
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08-25-2023, 09:51 PM | #39 |
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Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [POST-GAME]
You're gonna be a deadly player in a few games if you keep rolling with these peeps... I'm calling it now. Keep signing up for games!
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08-25-2023, 10:14 PM | #40 | |
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at least nothing more than in passing
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