TWG 205 - Zero Active Player Dilemma GAME THREAD

[mellon_collie]

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So scary that you do not want to answer my question

I will respond to this in the morning lol sorry

[star-crossed]

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All it takes from my pov to have the game solved is trust my own reads and not have star playing the wolf game of her life and screwing me over.

Thats kind of liberating in a way.

Fmpov killing tforce bug and raemo in any order wins, at least thats how i feel today. Storn is the thorn in this plan, though i just want to trust myself more and clear him for longer than a day

I get this to an extent but I must recommend withholding judgement on storn until he actually shows back up??

I am going to take some time when I return to think through what the 3 hangings would be if it was solely up to me though, and if there are unviable pairings based on d0.

[FreezinIce]

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I get this to an extent but I must recommend withholding judgement on storn until he actually shows back up??

I am going to take some time when I return to think through what the 3 hangings would be if it was solely up to me though, and if there are unviable pairings based on d0.

Yeah i know, just throwing my thoughts out there.

[storn42]

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Ok you did kind of answer, and that is probably fair. Flipping storn would have been better for me between the two as he remains vaguely sus for me and based on the lack of serious posts from him to this point, I am not sure that that will change even if he happens to be town. I am viewing how he is playing more like how he did in the anniversary game than he did in the last game I played with him (201). These are the only two games I have played with him. Personally I do not even know where to begin with assessing what he was trying to do at end of day. If he wants to try to explain great, but I do not even know what to ask.

"we should kill storn cus he's useless to town" Like, i get wanting to win and all but you realize how much of a shitty thing this is to say right? you're basically saying you want me out of the game regardless of alignment and thats very not cool.

[storn42]

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Ok so... Big confession time, before someone else brings it up. I fucked up majorly yesterday, and I didn't want to just doom myself, but shadow was very right with to bring up the PR stuff.

SOMEHOW, while looking at the setup, I looked like I forgot I was a VT. When I brought up that if inno child was in the game, there was a 50% chance of us having a doctor, that was under the assumption that everyone was one of the 2 things in there. Not only my math was just completely wrong (there aren't an equal amount of wolves and towns), but I didn't really read the roles and zoned in on inno child/doctor to see if using this could lead to us getting free information.

Obviously, there are 5 VTs in the game, so none of this works in the slightest. But had someone brought it up, I'd look like I just outed myself as either a PR or a Wolf, because how else would I think that there are only PRs and Wolves in the game?

I swear I'm a VT and I'm possibly going to die for mentionning this. At this point in time, everyone would have a good reason to want to kill me, so that wouldn't be helpful in the slightest. It was purely a brainfart on my end.

On the other hand, I think telling the story first hand is infinitely better than just someone else bringing up the incoherence and having to explain what happened in any sort of convincing fashion.

This post comes off as odd to me. like "this totally isn't a slip dont look at it" I Feel like you're over explaining something that doesn't need to be explained. Also why even claim your not a wolf or pr? i dont get it. If anything claiming VT just puts town in a worse position. If you are VT the wolves now get a 50/50 at hitting a pr. It just feels like you're trying to draw attention top your self or something, i just dont get it.

[storn42]

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I dont think you understand why its important in a setup like this to not claim vt

i really need to start reading ahead.

[storn42]

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This should be prefaced by me hardclaiming a one shot blue role Im not going to say specifically what it is because i dont want wolves to have more setup information but if it ever becomes relevant ill share it. All ill say is i dont think the role has much value.

I'd like to add that if your role isn't all that powerful im not sure this is a protown move. This has a similar effect to the VT claim in that if you are both telling the truth, this gives wolves a 33% change to hit the stronger PR. basically 50/50 if we lynch a VT that is neither of you.

[storn42]

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anyways force because there's truly no reason for me holding off on this. this is where my vote will likely stay for this phase anyway, unless i see somethin cRaZy

also remember insta is 4 so watch your votes lol

[star-crossed]

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"we should kill storn cus he's useless to town" Like, i get wanting to win and all but you realize how much of a shitty thing this is to say right? you're basically saying you want me out of the game regardless of alignment and thats very not cool.

I do not think you are useless. I think I can see why you interpreted that way and I apologize for not using better wording. Mainly, I was expressing sadness at Shadowgod having been hanged over someone I am more sus of, because I think the game would have been easier for me to fully figure out if it the outcome was different.

I ultimately I want to hear more from you on what you are really thinking. I have trouble getting that from what you have been choosing to post about. I have not had this issue in the past, though others are saying it is a meta thing for you.

[bugkid666]

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also remember insta is 4 so watch your votes lol

i already counted and knew this, but you're right that we should be mindful of it regardless. fmpov, i'm probably gonna vote him anyways. i guess if they aren't insta-ing at this point it might be a giveaway that we're onto them

[bugkid666]

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i miss shadow and haku tbh

[star-crossed]

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I guess storn, if it helps:

I do not know what your reads were Day 0.
I do not know why you have made the votes you have made.
I do not know what your reads are now.
I do not know if you criticizing Freezin's play means you do not believe him.
I do not know if you think we are focusing our conversation in the right direction right now.
I do not know if you have any counter argument to TForce saying you are more sus for being aloof.
I do not know if it is a rhetorical tactic to call people sussing you rude and respond more like it is a personal attack on you.
I do not know if I start asking you questions about any of these things, if you will just troll me in response. But if you start to clear any of that up, it would be helpful.

[bugkid666]

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Popping now to say:
- I will be available for EoDs, but only a handful of hours. Work will have me home between 5 and 7 PM server time, and more often than not, it's the latter.

- I will not be checking the game while at work. Not enough time to do so, and focus needs to be on getting my stuff done before I can have the fun.

- If anyone decides to sus me for activity despite these, I will assume you did not read this post, ergo didn't read any other post this game, and thus, bad.

That is all.

Zero sux.

the more i think about it the more this feels like it was written by someone who goes awoooooooo

[FreezinIce]

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Do raeko and tforce have any interactions? I went back and looked and i see nothing but it was a quick skim so mightve missed something

[mellon_collie]

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Do raeko and tforce have any interactions? I went back and looked and i see nothing but it was a quick skim so mightve missed something

I sussed him at the beginning of this phase