Song Corrections Thread

[XelNya]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Just actually bothered to check my own content for stuff, and most everything is cleaned up super nicely, and I really appreciate the effort into that.

Before Cynthia; Kindred, The Eternal Hunters; & N's Farewell should be in the Arcade section of the game.

Before Cynthia is literally a remaster / direct cover of the original game audio, Kindred is literally the theme of the character it's named after. N's Farewell is a piano based cover and redo of the song from Pokemon Black & White with the same name.

I assume they're in their current genres (and I'm ok if they stay) because the song's actual genre is most represented that way, but in the interest of consistency these are the last issues with my in-game work. Either those should move, or Lavender Town (Fairytale Remix) should be relocated to Classical.

If I had a choice of how it was handled I'd put them all into Arcade, but Goldstinger, your judgement has been super good and I'm good with whatever choice you wanna make there. (I know super irrelevant set of changes but since the house is being cleaned, I figured it might be worth a mention.)

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Just actually bothered to check my own content for stuff, and most everything is cleaned up super nicely, and I really appreciate the effort into that.

Before Cynthia; Kindred, The Eternal Hunters; & N's Farewell should be in the Arcade section of the game.

Before Cynthia is literally a remaster / direct cover of the original game audio, Kindred is literally the theme of the character it's named after. N's Farewell is a piano based cover and redo of the song from Pokemon Black & White with the same name.

I assume they're in their current genres (and I'm ok if they stay) because the song's actual genre is most represented that way, but in the interest of consistency these are the last issues with my in-game work. Either those should move, or Lavender Town (Fairytale Remix) should be relocated to Classical.

If I had a choice of how it was handled I'd put them all into Arcade, but Goldstinger, your judgement has been super good and I'm good with whatever choice you wanna make there. (I know super irrelevant set of changes but since the house is being cleaned, I figured it might be worth a mention.)

I think this can be an opener to an even broader discussion as a whole in what quantifies getting a song placed in the 'Arcade' genre. Is it the relation of a particular song to a video game, or is it a particular usage of instruments? If it's the latter, which instruments? '8-Bit' is the de-facto answer but there are MUCH more songs in Arcade than just '8-Bit'. There's Rock, House, Electronic (EDM), Progressive, Jazz and even Piano as what a lot of the argument imposed above contains (See: Mario Mix for Piano).

I've moved all the songs you've mentioned over to Arcade. Would love to have a discussion about this, in this thread and see how others interpret the genre.

[XelNya]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

I think this can be an opener to an even broader discussion as a whole in what quantifies getting a song placed in the 'Arcade' genre. Is it the relation of a particular song to a video game, or is it a particular usage of instruments? If it's the latter, which instruments? '8-Bit' is the de-facto answer but there are MUCH more songs in Arcade than just '8-Bit'. There's Rock, House, Electronic (EDM), Progressive, Jazz and even Piano as what a lot of the argument imposed above contains (See: Mario Mix for Piano).

I've moved all the songs you've mentioned over to Arcade. Would love to have a discussion about this, in this thread and see how others interpret the genre.

That'd be a fun deep-dive and rework of the genre sorting as a whole, because the current categories no longer really reflect the diverse catalogue of music FFR has, which is why these kinda pop up.

Like putting say my Nightfall (Original Mix) file in Dance makes a lot of sense, but does Sepia belong there? I'd probably say no, but like, to do that right Misc would get SLAUGHTERED with how many files are in it.

Or another example, MISC also contains Ruins [Toby Fox] which again like my files, has it placed wrong (noticed this while writing - sorry) but like, This Is Sparta is in MISC, so is something like Where is my balls, and -Bibbidi Poopidi Scoop- which makes no actual sense other than there's just not a better place for it to go, considering songs like A Quick Death are Dance 2, and it's up the same alley as all the Venetian Snares.

A separate thread for that kind of rework would probably be better to keep this to quicker fixes.

And I'd be willing to maybe tinker around with that a bit, but I'd rather see a Skill Token rework first personally (I've wanted this for AGES - and now might be the time where headway is finally made. Like I'd like to see Token whore adjusted to any 100 tokens, I'd like to see antipa reqs removed entirely sort of stuff - but this isn't the place for that.)

But I think as much as this sucks to say, considering the massive project you just did, fixing all of this would just be another big project. Sorry for the mini ramble but like, I hope you get where I'm going.

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

A separate thread for that kind of rework would probably be better to keep this to quicker fixes.

In regards to all genres? Yes. I believe most of the issue lies within MISC & ARCADE genres, since it's hard to contextualize the genre itself against these more 'nuanced' grouping of songs under a particular umbrella term as vague as those. 'Classical' is less vague since you reference it mentally to Piano, Orchestra, Sonata, Oldie, etc. Same with 'Rock', referencing Emo, Punk, Progressive, Metal and Country.

But I think as much as this sucks to say, considering the massive project you just did, fixing all of this would just be another big project. Sorry for the mini ramble but like, I hope you get where I'm going.

No time like the present to get it addressed and start working towards a solution. I have two other projects on backburners and an OT to boot, a third project being conceptualized doesn't burn me down.

[bmah]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

I was hoping that FFR could eventually do away with the Dance, Dance 2, Rock, etc. categories altogether.

[FlynnMac]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

I was hoping that FFR could eventually do away with the Dance, Dance 2, Rock, etc. categories altogether.

Gotta agree with this, with how little I personally use them, I just see it more beneficial to search by song style ingame and also just prefer sorting by difficulty anyways.

[XelNya]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

I was hoping that FFR could eventually do away with the Dance, Dance 2, Rock, etc. categories altogether.

I dunno if I feel the same, done right it’s a good way for a noob to enter and play stuff they might like before branching off. Feels like the FFR equivalent of an accessibility option, but I could see it done away with.

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

I dunno if I feel the same, done right it’s a good way for a noob to enter and play stuff they might like before branching off. Feels like the FFR equivalent of an accessibility option, but I could see it done away with.

I am in the same field that more experienced players sort based on difficulty, but more casual/starting players will sort by genre, because they will pick out what they like vs what gets them equiv.

[justin]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Heya - was working through some FFR Perfect Project stuff and noticed that the Wiki & Google translating searches for the song define 1372 as "Floating Hour" but it's listed as "Floating Away" on the site.

Don't know which is correct as I can't translate it myself beyond Google, but am wondering if that should be Floating Hour instead? I couldn't find any record in the forums of us changing it to "Floating Away"

[bmah]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Heya - was working through some FFR Perfect Project stuff and noticed that the Wiki & Google translating searches for the song define 1372 as "Floating Hour" but it's listed as "Floating Away" on the site.

Don't know which is correct as I can't translate it myself beyond Google, but am wondering if that should be Floating Hour instead? I couldn't find any record in the forums of us changing it to "Floating Away"

Floating Hour was a mistranslation, so someone (I can't remember who) pointed that out and it was corrected.

[justin]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Okay perfect - I'll get the wiki updated. Cheers!

edit: updated.

[trumaestro]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Given how the DESTINY/Destiny situation was handled earlier, a similar scenario exists for TURBO/Turbo. Would end up with

Turbo [RushJet1]
TURBO [Tokyo Machine][Heavy]
TURBO [Tokyo Machine][Standard]

Hoping that's the last of the duplicate name disambiguation.

[trumaestro]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Also btw rq: The song "kiss the sexy robot ultimate championship 201X!!!" [2879]'s original title is "kiss the sexy robot?? ultimate championshiop 201X!!!" as shown here:

and here: http://underveil.unisphere.tv/sequel/

I thought it didn't have the ?'s because no other titles did, but then I found a whole bunch of em including the more recently renamed "Of course you need me".

typo highlighted above exists in game

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

typo highlighted above exists in game

Fixed.

[storn42]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

A lot of song titles have been corrected or altered over the years, but the names and descriptions of a lot of tokens have not be adjusted.

A few examples:
"B.B. - Revenge -" is written as "BB Revenge"
in the description of "B.B. - Revenge -" it say "BB Evolution" instead of "B.B. - Evolution -"
The description of "Binary Rendezvous" does not specify which "ruins" must be played.