Song Corrections Thread

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

I've reviewed the Google docs with the current song list and here are the corrections that have not yet been processed. All the reasonings and sources concerning each corrections can be found in the spreadsheet (I have not transferred them here for the sake of readability). While I've left some problematic corrections out, most of these adhere strictly to whatever original source I could find, but there are still some cases where a proposition is made for consistency purposes (again, the spreadsheet specifies those cases clearly). I'm leaving you be the judge of what goes in and what doesn't.
Song ID is in brackets:

Editorial tags
[328] Free Space (FFR Edit) > Free Space OR Free Space [Cut] or Free Space [FFR Edit] (however you'd prefer to standardize song cuts]
[195] The Games We Played, Part 4 > The Games We Played [Part 4]
[194] The Games We Played, Part 3 > The Games We Played [Part 3]
[196] The Games We Played, Part 5 > The Games We Played [Part 5]
[192] The Games We Played, Part 1 > The Games We Played [Part 1]
[1883] The Games We Played (Full Edition) > The Games We Played [Full Edition]
[193] The Games We Played, Part 2 > The Games We Played [Part 2]
[1881] White Walls, Part 1 > White Walls [Part 1]
[1882] White Walls, Part 2 > White Walls [Part 2]


Starting monday, I will be catching up to where I was back when I left this research behind, with the latest version of the song list of course.

What about [1913] Sleep and [2186] Sleep, Part 2?

[Crazyjayde]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

What about [1913] Sleep and [2186] Sleep, Part 2?

Absolutely! I haven't yet gone over that case but it does seem like both should use brackets, while [1913] should specify [Part 1] in its title (if that is indeed the first half of the song).

It hasn't been an enforced rule, but I'm advocating for the use of editorial tags mainly for consistency. Any additional detail made by the FFR staff to a song title or artist should always use them as to not arise confusion with the original title. It's also just way easier to parse upon viewing the song list, both for users and managers.

[XelNya]

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What about [1913] Sleep and [2186] Sleep, Part 2?

Check the spreadsheet, if I recall it was on there.

By that I mean, I checked myself because I too, strongly love consistency.

[gold stinger]

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What about [1913] Sleep and [2186] Sleep, Part 2?

Everything mentioned here has been fixed, except for the stuff listed below:

� correspondances illumit�es -> I could not change the 'A' and the 'e' characters to match, because in-game does not support it. The website supports it, but it doesn't translate properly in-game. Capitalization has been adjusted though to match.

Comptine d'un autre �t� Techno Remix -> Same issue applies as above, but capitalization has been fixed.


[1199] Etude in E Major > �tude in E Major OR �tude Op. 10, No. 3 in E major
[1375] Op.10 No.9 > �tude in F Minor OR �tude Op. 10, No. 9 in F minor
These were changed to 'Etude Op. 10, No. 3 in E major' & 'Etude Op. 10, No. 9 in F minor' respectively to avoid disambiguation errors. If there's 'proper song names' or 'inherited names' for these musical pieces, I'd rather use those instead but this is good for right now.

'Minute Waltz' and 'Minute Waltz v2' were already changed, so no changes made.


For:
[1723] Andrew Huang > Songs To Wear Pants To
[1829] Andrew Huang > Songs To Wear Pants To
I'll need some verification/clarification on this specifically for 'It's Too Loud' and 'Internet Heroes' because this is 2 of 5 songs attributed under 'Andrew Huang'. List of Andrew Huang songs:
Trap Funk
Mario Trap
We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
Internet Heroes
It's Too Loud

Meanwhile, there are 6 attributed songs for 'songstowearpantsto', and would like to know if we are blanket appending 'Songs To Wear Pants To' to all of these plus the two songs misattributed under Andrew Huang that should be under 'Songs To Wear Pants To', or this is happening to ALL songs that involve the attribution 'Andrew Huang'.
List of 'songstowearpantsto' songs:
PUNK FLUFFY UNICORNS DANCING ON RAINBOWS
Pink Fluffy Unicorns Dancing on Rainbows
THE LITTLE MERMAID
tetris [songstowearpantsto]
super mario bros theme (original NES is awesome)
Politically Correct Holiday Song


[1092] 5 OC Remixers > OverClocked ReMixers OR OverClocked ReMix
[991] 7 OCReMixers & Nobuo Uematsu > OverClocked ReMixers OR OverClocked ReMix
As per OCReMix permission stipulations, in situations with multiple ReMixers involved, I've attributed 'Black Wing Metamorphosis' and 'Lover Reef' directly to 'OverClocked ReMix', which has now had its wiki page updated to support those songs, and linking out to each individual artist credited on each individual song page.


for 'Ludwig van Beethoven / T. Leen', it has been changed but I would like T. Leen's full name if available so that those particular changes with old pianist's / musicians are standardized. A few other songs with this kind of Song Author attribution have also been changed to use full names.


[2304] New World Disorder > New World Disorder (23's Orchestra Dubstyle Extravaganza)
Since this is a remix, attribution credit is going to '23 feat. Arkasia' with a wiki splitter page to credit both authors (the remix, and the original work, in that order) equally, as-is the standard now moving forward (and a fair amount of fixes applied via the author re-linking project).

[2095] asha > zmi
Same here, proper attribution should be 'asha feat. zmi', with remixer first, featuring zmi since their original content is remixed upon and featured in asha's work. The Author link involved will link to a splitter page on the wiki, crediting both artists equally.

That being said, iterations of 'Remixing Inconsistencies' laid out within this post have been addressed/fixed in this fashion.


[2356] Trobbel > Tr�bbel
[1695] Pokamen Party > Pok�men Party
[31] Revolutionary Etude > Revolutionary �tude
[1658] Revolutionary Etude v2 > Revolutionary �tude v2
'o' symbol is not supported in-game, same with similar characters in this set. Nothing has been changed about these, since the only things needing change on them, are characters that are unsupported.


[328] Free Space (FFR Edit) > Free Space OR Free Space [Cut] or Free Space [FFR Edit] (however you'd prefer to standardize song cuts]
Free Space has a lot of Real Estate being at the top of the songlist sorted A-Z, and by difficulty (Unless you have Eien Meikyu unlocked). For this reason, I am choosing for the meantime to keep it as [FFR Edit] so as to not dramatically change how the song name looks while utilizing []'s as editorial tags. I am down for community debate though if people would prefer to see 'Free Space [Cut]' or 'Free Space' instead (since there is not a 2nd version of Free Space that is a separate cut or full version), since that is how it should look following editorial tag standardization.

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

While it's a ridiculous amount of changes, no person is perfect (both me & Crazyjayde & the spreadsheet) so if you see something out of place/incorrect, add it here and I will get it changed ASAP, that includes if something is particularly wrong on the wiki but not the website, and you would like to see wiki stuff changed to reflect that.

[Matthia]

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pretty minor but this space should get removed from the title

[gold stinger]

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pretty minor but this space should get removed from the title

Fixed, had to remove the cross symbol though since it broke the song name in-game. Used + instead.

[Crazyjayde]

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Everything mentioned here has been fixed, except for the stuff listed below

Whew. I am hugely grateful for your work, thank you! Again, I'll be collecting these exceptions and summarize them into a guidelines/public consensus thread, but for now I'm resuming the research. Just need some clarifications though:

1) Handling remixes and features will be a breeze now, but the only aspect I'm still uncertain is if we're alright with crediting Wild Cherry, Blink-182 and other popular acts. I'm thinking these were originally withheld to avoid the ire of mainstream labels, and I would err on the side of caution. If it's also a yes on your side, I'll make the adjustments.

2) Concerning aliases, I've noticed all of RYO's catalog are now moved under Ryo Nakamura. IIRC, researching his case, I think it was a long name change where at some point he was using his two aliases concurrently/semi-consistently, with Ray of Moonlight and Daybreak being released earlier under RYO. Honestly I can go both ways, especially in this case (since RYO is just a diminutive), but do you think it's best to merge aliases under one artist when reasonable/applicable? Or should I stick to identifying what alias it was originally published as (less likely to generate permission conflicts)?

3) Not sure I understand your Andrew Huang comments fully, but here's what I can gather: the original permission can be found in the Artist Blanket Permission v5 thread (https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...to#post3540847). It is curiously absent from the main permission list, but Noname took the time to trace it back. YoshL's permission seems to blanket Andrew Huang's material, with a specific link to the songstowearpantsto domain. Meaning, anything under the Songs To Wear Pants To should be fully cleared (or at least anything published on that domain), so it's really the Andrew Huang attribution we would be appending. Not sure if I'm really answering anything.

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And two corrections:

4) Now that I know that the feat. abbreviation both denotes remixers and features, there's one correction I've submitted that reads as incorrect. The Wish (Kyrn Remix) is both a remix and a feature, and should technically be read as "original song by jihnsius featuring Charlotte Summer on vocals then remixed by Kyrn". I think it would officially translate into "Kyrn feat. jihnsius & Charlotte Summer" but I'm not sure.

5) About that T. Leen guy. I have cross-referenced the old classicalarchives.com MIDI page we used in our research (http://web.archive.org/web/200508311.../beethovn.html) with their current one (https://www.classicalarchives.com/mi...oser/2156.html) and have found out that every instance where T. Leen was credited have now been attributed to Bunji Hisamori. Incidentally, I was leaving these classical music cases for later, but should probably research them now that I know how to proceed. Anyways, here's the correction:

[214] Ludwig van Beethoven / T. Leen > Ludwig van Beethoven / Bunji Hisamori

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

1) mainstream labels can look at the credits all they want. FFR is trying to be as fair as possible by providing attribution to everyone involved in a music piece, not just the remixer. If a particular music label does not want to be credited out of fear of being associated with FFR (which FFR very much does not to any one particular music artist or label), or another reason, then they can get in-contact with FFR through FFR's e-mail system. In most cases involved here, FFR adopted the attribution provided by the initial song release of the music author. If the song in question never credited other authors, then they likely were never included here.

2) Aliases should be under the name of the Alias in which they were published. Even if one particular author goes under many different Aliases (such as Renard). These Aliases are credited by linking to the main music author's wiki page, where their Aliases are listed, and what songs are currently in-game under which Alias name.

3) What I am getting at is related to bullet point 2 above, in clarification regarding Aliases. Andrew Huang has songs in-game under 'Andrew Huang', 'Girl' and 'songstowearpantsto'. They also have the added alias of 'andrewismusic'. All the songs are credited differently based on how they are published for release, and I am requesting a confirmation of how exactly we should handle attribution of these songs. Am I updating ONLY the songs credited to 'songstowearpantsto'? Am I changing ALL of Andrew Huang's crediting to 'Songs To Wear Pants To'? Or am I changing only the ones outlined in your previous post?

4) & 5) have been Fixed and yes, you were correct on "Kyrn feat. jihnsius & Charlotte Summer" in this case.

[Crazyjayde]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Or am I changing only the ones outlined in your previous post?

This. Same goes for RYO actually. I'm using the song ID to specify the exact song entry where a change must be made in the artist field. If ever there was a case where an artist is straight up erroneous, I would then list all the relevant song IDs for that corresponding artist.

So that means:

-RYO- in-game songs should be : Daybreak & Ray of Moonlight
Ryo Nakamura in-game songs should be : Futurity & Late Summer

And only It's Too Loud & Internet Heroes are to be moved under Song To Wear Pants To.

[SubaruPoptart]

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Also btw rq: The song "kiss the sexy robot ultimate championship 201X!!!" [2879]'s original title is "kiss the sexy robot?? ultimate championshiop 201X!!!" as shown here:

and here: http://underveil.unisphere.tv/sequel/

I thought it didn't have the ?'s because no other titles did, but then I found a whole bunch of em including the more recently renamed "Of course you need me".

[gold stinger]

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Alright, everything is up-to-date to here.

[jh05013]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Now that Unshakeable and Unshakable have artist tags, should the 3 Flights of the Bumblebee have artist tags too? Also not sure if v2 should be called v2, since v1 and v2 have different audio.

[gold stinger]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

Now that Unshakeable and Unshakable have artist tags, should the 3 Flights of the Bumblebee have artist tags too? Also not sure if v2 should be called v2, since v1 and v2 have different audio.

okai

[Ghost_Medley]

Re: Song Corrections Thread

"Upshift" is by s-don, but the song was released under their alias "Iriss-Frantzz". FFR uses "s-don" in game, this should be changed and the "Iriss-Frantzz" alias can be added to the wiki.