ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

blind's power "should have gone off".

but it didn't.

which is either:

1) sunfan having a specific bullshit rule that only applies to information roles
2) blind got roleblocked, so he didn't get a response, or
3) blind is lying

[gold stinger]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

It is tomorrow, I am pretty sure. Hopefully you will feel better by then.

alright, that's some good reassurance. I'll likely be better by then.

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

Hi everybody. I am really confused because there is not another announcement from sun fan and no death, but I am happy, because three of my favorite TWG players just joined this game all at once. Suck it main thread, this is basically the cool kids' club. Haha.

<3333

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

we are purely in a support capacity for the first game

I kinda think this is what's happening right now

With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

"Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

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For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

In terms of making this game a little bit more playable/understandable, the announcement I made in the 2nd post would have been made in any composition of alignment splits of the 4 players, and would not ever be said again.

So is this basically saying that the second post is just a red herring cuz I'm kinda disappointed if it is js

On another note I've just now found out the multi-quote button exists after having accidentally hit it to quote this one and this makes things a thousand times easier than they originally were

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

So is this basically saying that the second post is just a red herring cuz I'm kinda disappointed if it is js

On another note I've just now found out the multi-quote button exists after having accidentally hit it to quote this one and this makes things a thousand times easier than they originally were

it makes sense thematically, it is just completely useless for us right now lmao

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

I kinda think this is what's happening right now

With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

"Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

-----------------------

For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.

quoting again because bottom-paged

[blindreper1179]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

I think we need more elaboration on this.

What do you mean by "I got nothing anyways"?

So, I've caught up to here. I didn't get a result. The big difference is your power not only resolved at the same time, it also brought them here, which is the biggest difference. My power was going between two games. So, since we can't "technically" interact, it whiffed? Idk, I didn't get anything where or not they did an action. I'm powerless now regardless.

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

So, I've caught up to here. I didn't get a result. The big difference is your power not only resolved at the same time, it also brought them here, which is the biggest difference. My power was going between two games. So, since we can't "technically" interact, it whiffed? Idk, I didn't get anything where or not they did an action. I'm powerless now regardless.

ok yeah I thought about it some more and don't think it's worth thinking into

your seer result "got stuck" in Game 1, so you can't access it from Game 2

my vigi shot "got stuck" in Game 1, so it just happened as per normal

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

think we choose between charu and storn here

I would personally pick Charu in terms of scum equity, but looking at "proper gameplay", I think we resolve storn first, since that gives us a wagon flip, which we desperately need right now

storn

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

knowing that we cannot ever die in this game, our job is to provide flips which give ACTIONABLE INFO for Game 1.

at this point, storn or star are the best choices. star flipping green would be a huge "so what", but storn flipping town OR wolf would be huge

[Charu]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

knowing that we cannot ever die in this game, our job is to provide flips which give ACTIONABLE INFO for Game 1.

at this point, storn or star are the best choices. star flipping green would be a huge "so what", but storn flipping town OR wolf would be huge

We don't know that 100% for certain. As I said, if gold stinger can still be with us in the next day phase then I would say this.

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

@Other game:

You guys gotta kill Ben. You're seeing what's been happening, right? Ben has survived TWO phases despite being a top wagon, and EVEN NOW people are shifting away from him to Force, even if I personally find Force scummy.

Ben SOMEHOW keeps surviving despite people giving lip-service to him being scummy. "Yeah Ben is scummy, but I'm going to vote for XXX instead."

For some of you newer players, this is indicative of Ben being "protected" by other wolves. The Haku wagon is direct evidence of this. The fucking STORN wagon is evidence of this. Wolves will ALWAYS find an excuse to say "Ben is scummy, but WHAT ABOUT THIS OTHER GUY??"

I know I said storn and Ben were both fine lynches, but I deeply regret saying that now. Especially after seeing the final wagon results. Ben was set to die... then VERY SUDDENLY storn got enough to be lynched.

Two times is a pattern, guys. You're about to witness a third time.

You NEED to resolve the counterwagons that didn't die, especially if they are counterwagons TWICE IN A ROW

If this was a normal game this wouldn't even be a question

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

I'm at a point with Ben where I want to go back and see how he keeps getting away with it. Who are the people sitting on the bench? Who genuinely thinks Ben is town, versus who has given lip-service to Ben being scum, maybe even that Ben should die, but never actually ends up voting him.

It's THOSE people that are wolves protecting Ben if he's a wolf. But of course, we need a BEN FLIP before we can figure that out.

[DaBackpack]

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

EVEN IF BEN IS TOWN, the fact that he keeps being set-up as a major lynch target is evidence that the wolves want us to sus him for endgame, so they get a trivially easy final mislynch.

LYNCH BEN