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  • DaBackpack
    ~ お ま ん こ ~
    • Mar 2014
    • 918

    #316
    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

    blind's power "should have gone off".

    but it didn't.

    which is either:

    1) sunfan having a specific bullshit rule that only applies to information roles
    2) blind got roleblocked, so he didn't get a response, or
    3) blind is lying


    Originally posted by Moogy
    no one cares
    Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
    there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
    that's kind of a sad statistic

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    • gold stinger
      Signature Extraordinare~~
      Event Staff
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Jan 2007
      • 6428

      #317
      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

      Originally posted by star-crossed
      It is tomorrow, I am pretty sure. Hopefully you will feel better by then.
      alright, that's some good reassurance. I'll likely be better by then.
      Originally posted by YoshL
      butts.


      - Tosh 2014






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      • DaBackpack
        ~ お ま ん こ ~
        • Mar 2014
        • 918

        #318
        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

        Originally posted by star-crossed
        Hi everybody. I am really confused because there is not another announcement from sun fan and no death, but I am happy, because three of my favorite TWG players just joined this game all at once. Suck it main thread, this is basically the cool kids' club. Haha.
        <3333


        Originally posted by Moogy
        no one cares
        Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
        there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
        that's kind of a sad statistic

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        • DaBackpack
          ~ お ま ん こ ~
          • Mar 2014
          • 918

          #319
          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

          Originally posted by DaBackpack
          we are purely in a support capacity for the first game
          I kinda think this is what's happening right now

          With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

          We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

          Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

          Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

          Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

          If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

          "Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

          -----------------------

          For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

          This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.


          Originally posted by Moogy
          no one cares
          Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
          there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
          that's kind of a sad statistic

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          • SubaruPoptart
            da kyo~
            • Nov 2015
            • 737

            #320
            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

            Originally posted by the sun fan
            In terms of making this game a little bit more playable/understandable, the announcement I made in the 2nd post would have been made in any composition of alignment splits of the 4 players, and would not ever be said again.
            So is this basically saying that the second post is just a red herring cuz I'm kinda disappointed if it is js

            On another note I've just now found out the multi-quote button exists after having accidentally hit it to quote this one and this makes things a thousand times easier than they originally were






            Originally posted by qrrbrbirbel
            AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



            Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
            Oh God it's Subaru
            Originally posted by Deamerai
            damnit subaru
            Originally posted by FreezinIce
            You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
            Originally posted by Funnygurl555
            wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


            Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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            • DaBackpack
              ~ お ま ん こ ~
              • Mar 2014
              • 918

              #321
              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

              Originally posted by SubaruPoptart
              So is this basically saying that the second post is just a red herring cuz I'm kinda disappointed if it is js

              On another note I've just now found out the multi-quote button exists after having accidentally hit it to quote this one and this makes things a thousand times easier than they originally were
              it makes sense thematically, it is just completely useless for us right now lmao


              Originally posted by Moogy
              no one cares
              Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
              there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
              that's kind of a sad statistic

              Comment

              • DaBackpack
                ~ お ま ん こ ~
                • Mar 2014
                • 918

                #322
                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                Originally posted by DaBackpack
                I kinda think this is what's happening right now

                With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

                We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

                Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

                Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

                Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

                If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

                "Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

                -----------------------

                For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

                This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.
                quoting again because bottom-paged


                Originally posted by Moogy
                no one cares
                Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                that's kind of a sad statistic

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                • blindreper1179
                  Vice President Of TGB
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 5901

                  #323
                  Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                  Originally posted by DaBackpack
                  I think we need more elaboration on this.

                  What do you mean by "I got nothing anyways"?
                  So, I've caught up to here. I didn't get a result. The big difference is your power not only resolved at the same time, it also brought them here, which is the biggest difference. My power was going between two games. So, since we can't "technically" interact, it whiffed? Idk, I didn't get anything where or not they did an action. I'm powerless now regardless.
                  Originally posted by thesunfan
                  absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
                  Originally posted by choof
                  It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
                  Originally posted by choof
                  whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
                  Originally posted by Celirra
                  I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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                  • DaBackpack
                    ~ お ま ん こ ~
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 918

                    #324
                    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                    Originally posted by blindreper1179
                    So, I've caught up to here. I didn't get a result. The big difference is your power not only resolved at the same time, it also brought them here, which is the biggest difference. My power was going between two games. So, since we can't "technically" interact, it whiffed? Idk, I didn't get anything where or not they did an action. I'm powerless now regardless.
                    ok yeah I thought about it some more and don't think it's worth thinking into

                    your seer result "got stuck" in Game 1, so you can't access it from Game 2

                    my vigi shot "got stuck" in Game 1, so it just happened as per normal


                    Originally posted by Moogy
                    no one cares
                    Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                    there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                    that's kind of a sad statistic

                    Comment

                    • DaBackpack
                      ~ お ま ん こ ~
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 918

                      #325
                      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                      think we choose between charu and storn here

                      I would personally pick Charu in terms of scum equity, but looking at "proper gameplay", I think we resolve storn first, since that gives us a wagon flip, which we desperately need right now

                      storn


                      Originally posted by Moogy
                      no one cares
                      Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                      there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                      that's kind of a sad statistic

                      Comment

                      • DaBackpack
                        ~ お ま ん こ ~
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 918

                        #326
                        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                        knowing that we cannot ever die in this game, our job is to provide flips which give ACTIONABLE INFO for Game 1.

                        at this point, storn or star are the best choices. star flipping green would be a huge "so what", but storn flipping town OR wolf would be huge


                        Originally posted by Moogy
                        no one cares
                        Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                        there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                        that's kind of a sad statistic

                        Comment

                        • Charu
                          Snivy! Dohoho!
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 6207

                          #327
                          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                          Originally posted by DaBackpack
                          knowing that we cannot ever die in this game, our job is to provide flips which give ACTIONABLE INFO for Game 1.

                          at this point, storn or star are the best choices. star flipping green would be a huge "so what", but storn flipping town OR wolf would be huge
                          We don't know that 100% for certain. As I said, if gold stinger can still be with us in the next day phase then I would say this.


                          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                          Had a very shiny nose
                          And if you ever saw it
                          You could even say it glows

                          All of the other Snivies
                          Used to laugh and call him names
                          They never let poor Charu
                          Join in any Snivy games

                          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                          Originally posted by Vendetta21
                          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                          • DaBackpack
                            ~ お ま ん こ ~
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 918

                            #328
                            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                            @Other game:

                            You guys gotta kill Ben. You're seeing what's been happening, right? Ben has survived TWO phases despite being a top wagon, and EVEN NOW people are shifting away from him to Force, even if I personally find Force scummy.

                            Ben SOMEHOW keeps surviving despite people giving lip-service to him being scummy. "Yeah Ben is scummy, but I'm going to vote for XXX instead."

                            For some of you newer players, this is indicative of Ben being "protected" by other wolves. The Haku wagon is direct evidence of this. The fucking STORN wagon is evidence of this. Wolves will ALWAYS find an excuse to say "Ben is scummy, but WHAT ABOUT THIS OTHER GUY??"

                            I know I said storn and Ben were both fine lynches, but I deeply regret saying that now. Especially after seeing the final wagon results. Ben was set to die... then VERY SUDDENLY storn got enough to be lynched.

                            Two times is a pattern, guys. You're about to witness a third time.

                            You NEED to resolve the counterwagons that didn't die, especially if they are counterwagons TWICE IN A ROW

                            If this was a normal game this wouldn't even be a question


                            Originally posted by Moogy
                            no one cares
                            Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                            there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                            that's kind of a sad statistic

                            Comment

                            • DaBackpack
                              ~ お ま ん こ ~
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 918

                              #329
                              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                              I'm at a point with Ben where I want to go back and see how he keeps getting away with it. Who are the people sitting on the bench? Who genuinely thinks Ben is town, versus who has given lip-service to Ben being scum, maybe even that Ben should die, but never actually ends up voting him.

                              It's THOSE people that are wolves protecting Ben if he's a wolf. But of course, we need a BEN FLIP before we can figure that out.


                              Originally posted by Moogy
                              no one cares
                              Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                              there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                              that's kind of a sad statistic

                              Comment

                              • DaBackpack
                                ~ お ま ん こ ~
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 918

                                #330
                                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                                EVEN IF BEN IS TOWN, the fact that he keeps being set-up as a major lynch target is evidence that the wolves want us to sus him for endgame, so they get a trivially easy final mislynch.

                                LYNCH BEN


                                Originally posted by Moogy
                                no one cares
                                Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                                there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                                that's kind of a sad statistic

                                Comment

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