TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I am vanilla cop

Checks are daikyi, silenced, funnier, roundbox, all green.

Possibilities: Check is good, rb is lying: ???
Check is bad, rb is lying: rb is investigation immune
Check is good, rb is not lying: check is me, but I didnt get the pm, so this didnt happen
Check is bad, rb is not lying: How?

KEY WORD: "GREEN"

Its a smart frame that works because hes investigation immune

yes, me outing my one-use redirect at the beginning of the phase today is all a part of a very big frame job
just in time for your seering on me, right? glad you got that in

I get alignment (town/not-town) only

wait
none of these words are "GREEN"
so if you get town/not town, why did you say green? is it because you don't actually have the power and you made a mistake typing?
and also, how did you get doctor from funnier6's posting? yes, you said the fox fire thing, but.. funnier of all the players? this doesn't make sense. if anything, thinking about who could be the doctor/who couldn't be the doctor is usually something a wolf would try to and figure out


BIG ALSO:
if you knew there was at least one protective role in the game that was NOT DAIKYI (by your admission), why would you have a problem claiming cop or at least hinting that you got info that someone was town? especially funnier6? he was the subject of a very large wagon yesterday, but you declined to release that information and save town from wasting their time pondering a vote on him because it somehow "wasn't the time to claim" even though we have players like daikyi who outed they have both information collecting AND protective powers

in short, what were you afraid of happening to you if you claimed??

Taking a note out of RB's book:

If RB doesn't respond, that's anti-town.

hi

[Soundwave-]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

KEY WORD: "GREEN"



yes, me outing my one-use redirect at the beginning of the phase today is all a part of a very big frame job
just in time for your seering on me, right? glad you got that in



wait
none of these words are "GREEN"
so if you get town/not town, why did you say green? is it because you don't actually have the power and you made a mistake typing?
and also, how did you get doctor from funnier6's posting? yes, you said the fox fire thing, but.. funnier of all the players? this doesn't make sense. if anything, thinking about who could be the doctor/who couldn't be the doctor is usually something a wolf would try to and figure out


BIG ALSO:
if you knew there was at least one protective role in the game that was NOT DAIKYI (by your admission), why would you have a problem claiming cop or at least hinting that you got info that someone was town? especially funnier6? he was the subject of a very large wagon yesterday, but you declined to release that information and save town from wasting their time pondering a vote on him because it somehow "wasn't the time to claim" even though we have players like daikyi who outed they have both information collecting AND protective powers

in short, what were you afraid of happening to you if you claimed??



hi

green vs town: tinfoil
I didnt. I didnt blue hunt, I just took what I saw and formed the best judgement of who needed to be protected vs who i could out.

I didnt soft because my checks werent in danger, and I didnt out because I would have died last night. Now I got a check out of it, and a juicy one at that

[Not devonin]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I'm trying to think of worlds where Roundbox and Soundwave are both telling the complete truth here. Svaz definitely took at least some night actions.

The only way Soundwave and Roundbox can both be telling the complete truth is if Svaz sent me the letter as a bluff to put suspicion on Roundbox when he claimed to not get the role PM.

That's just such an unnecessary bluff and one that is pretty easily defeated, as per Roundbox saying "Actually I redirected the actions" and now suddenly it's Soundwave who looks potentially suspicious.

As a divide-and-conquer thing I guess it could make some sense? I think Svaz is certainly capable of the planning and execution of that kind of bluff but like...it makes a terrible long-term wolf plan because it could either have completely caught her out in the lie or literally never had a chance to come up as a tactic.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I don't think "green vs. town" is tinfoil at all
tinfoil is reserved for theories that are just absolutely nonsensical and crazy (think of how it got its namesake)

you said you got green results on people, but then you said you only get town/anti-town

why wouldn't you just have said town at first? why green?

[Soundwave-]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

because its colloquial. I dont know what a town aligned 3p comes up with, before you try to steer with that.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

because its colloquial. I dont know what a town aligned 3p comes up with, before you try to steer with that.

no, no. the distinction between "green" vs "red" and "town" vs "anti-town" is not merely colloquial. they are VERY much different mechanics. Think of all of the colours we've seen flip this game. If you were a colour seer, you'd have the possibilities of green, red, purple, and grey (at least from what we've seen flip). If you were just town/anti-town seer, you'd only have the results of town or anti-town.

not sure where the 3p thing came from
and for all intents and purposes, I do not think that sunfan/wv were ever considered "third party" aligned. they just had an additional win condition that was a fight to the death between the two of them. funnygurl and antori, on the other hand, are very anti-town looking roles.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I know you're pretty mechanically minded and logical, Soundwave, so you saying the difference between "green" and "town" is merely colloquial really does not sound like you at all

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

but, for the sake of exploring the validity of your claim, tell me why you seered the three people you seered. did you make any softs or indications that you seered them or were planning seering them?

anything?

[Soundwave-]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

No like I see the distinction, it's just town/green are used colloquially interchangeably because very rarely are they not equal sets. I didnt mean to imply I was a color cop by using green.

[Soundwave-]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I seered, roughly speaking, my most nulls in the reverse order of likelihood to be lynched by town.

Naturally, due to our high success, this was unlikely to produce results, but was a safety measure for the for more likely case that we had not been so successful.

[Soundwave-]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I know you're pretty mechanically minded and logical

also just so we clear I gave up playing mech driven like, after my first day of ltwg lol. It doesnt fit the culture here

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

No like I see the distinction, it's just town/green are used colloquially interchangeably because very rarely are they not equal sets. I didnt mean to imply I was a color cop by using green.

it only makes your claim look less valid if you take this stance
you're telling the whole thread that even though your results have been nothing but "town" or "anti-town", you came out calling them green results instead

like, you only have two expectations for a result. you've been getting these results from the host for THREE NIGHTS: either TOWN or ANTI-TOWN. it just doesn't make sense to me why you would use the word GREEN if you've only had town as a result. this may seem like splitting hairs but I think otherwise

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

1h15m to EOD

where is the rest of town?

[gold stinger]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

hi

I straight up passed out waiting for you to post wth man. I saw it was all dark in my room and was like "omfg I missed EoD"

[Soundwave-]

Re: TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

I mean youre not splitting hairs in the sense that, yeah, theyre different. But like, "they're good, they're green"

It's not splitting hairs, it's just reading into something without intention.

Because you know you can only cover your ass for one day anyways.