TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

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  • ShadoWolfe
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2009
    • 171

    #1576
    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

    Phoneposting because my laptop is officially unusuable. Windows won't boot and reformatting it doesn't work. Repairing drive doesn't work. Spent 3 hours in pre-boot CMD this morning only to lose hope. Either need a new hard drive or a new motherboard. I'm leaning (hoping) motherboard and maybe I can have a professional extract my data so I don't lose every photo back from 2012.

    Anyway,

    I was starting to second guess my read on Daikyi remembering MML's insistence it wasn't raeko and was daikyi, so I did my due diligence to avoid clearing anyone too early. Daikyi isn't wolfing. If he is then I've lost and brought town down with me, but I'm not gonna let tinfoiling and overthinking end up throwing game away. There's too much natural progression and and genuity evident in his thought process. The MML lynch, for instance, was necessary for a chance at a wolf victory, and while Daikyi pushed it, it wasn't as artificial as MML made it seem. The previous phase, Daikyi confirmed MML as cop (despite vocal distaste of his play) and was operating on the premise of lynching Haku until Haku claimed cop as well. He only changed his mind away from believing claims once Antori flipped and it became confirmed that a cop was lying.

    Gradiant is super town imo. I went back to EoD D0 to see how genuine his Antori push was and even up to 5 minutes away from EoD he was pushing for the Antori wagon over all else. If Antori was godfather or something then I'd reconsider but a hard serious push to lynch the wolf that confirms setup from D0 is tough to swallow. Aside from that, his ISO shows he wasnt skating by as much as I thought he was. There's a bunch of examples of little things that he caught and asked about that indicate town trying to solve. Think I'd even vote Daikyi before Gradiant.

    I said I'd leave a will of sorts in case I draw the NK


    This is it: lynch Raeko. Out of every game I've ever played with her, the only two she's ever played like this were the SK game and a wolf game. Roundbox had the same idea if you go back and read his criteria. Also there's a lot of little things that scream partnership with Antori.
    D0 at EoD as Antori was becoming more at risk, Raeko says she's voting between WV/Shado. There's also an interaction with Antori where he asks her wolf leans "because he hasn't heard them yet", she replies including him among 3 others and this is her read: "My suspicions on you (Antori) are mostly because of some general anti-town things you said. But I know you are a relatively new player still so it may just be a lack of experience talking and I don't want to run in the same circles every single game."

    Just lynch raeko. Don't overthink game.
    OK whew ready to end phase whenever now





    Originally posted by Hakulyte
    I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
    Originally posted by XelNya
    " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
    Originally posted by YoshL
    "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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    • ShadoWolfe
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2009
      • 171

      #1577
      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

      Game isn't realistic. IRL when you have a confirmed gang member you can offer them plea deals (exile from town in exchange for selling out the last mafia) to get them to turn on each other.





      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
      Originally posted by XelNya
      " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
      Originally posted by YoshL
      "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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      • ShadoWolfe
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2009
        • 171

        #1578
        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

        Pro interrogation tactics and torture sometimes work well too despite being against my own moral code





        Originally posted by Hakulyte
        I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
        Originally posted by XelNya
        " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
        Originally posted by YoshL
        "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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        • Gradiant
          FFR's Resident Trashpanda
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 1100

          #1579
          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          I would bet my lunch Raeko is town

          Haku is obviously being couched and I don't see Raeko doing that.

          I'm biasedly going to say I like Yosh's post on me the least so that he's Haku's partner, and that if I was in final 3 with Yosh this game i vote him 100% of the time over Raeko
          This is standing out to me so idk. Otherwise, my thoughts on yoshl are purely tinfoiling. Shado, do you believe then that mellon is capable of coaching haku through a fake cop claim and also letting antori do a fake claim of his own?

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          • Gradiant
            FFR's Resident Trashpanda
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2012
            • 1100

            #1580
            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

            mellon has had some pretty scummy reactions and otherwise general lack of activity and involvement with the game, but it worries me that the reason it's come down to this was because of scum fake claims where mellon's completely ignored mechanics and yoshl and shado have been obviously paying attention to all of that.

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            • Gradiant
              FFR's Resident Trashpanda
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2012
              • 1100

              #1581
              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

              though i guess completely ignoring mechanics in thread throws up red flags and i'm just being stupid and paranoid

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              • Gradiant
                FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 1100

                #1582
                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                Shado scum
                Daikyi town
                Raeko scum
                inDheart town
                Gradiant town
                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                why would shado be tunneling bussing me the whole game...?

                idk I just don't see this pairing, obviously but I don't see why someone else would see it either
                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                What ? It's not a pairing.
                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                oh ok, ignore me rofl
                I really should've been here eod while on video call with mom, this is just bad.

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                • Gradiant
                  FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1100

                  #1583
                  Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                  that reaction there paired with how she reacted to people thinking roundbox slipped and roundbox's switch onto ffa after mml's claim

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                  • ShadoWolfe
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 171

                    #1584
                    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                    Originally posted by Gradiant
                    This is standing out to me so idk. Otherwise, my thoughts on yoshl are purely tinfoiling. Shado, do you believe then that mellon is capable of coaching haku through a fake cop claim and also letting antori do a fake claim of his own?
                    I don't think mellon masterminded those fake claims.
                    I said it yesterday that I thought that antori/raeko/Haku isn't likely because there's no one mechanically adept. I discarded that mostly because I think Haku would be able to focus on the mechanics (he spends hours tinfoiling mechanics in his town games and his results are often sound) and come up with those fake claims on his own. Plus discussing it with two partners makes it likely they'd figure it out. Setup isn't rocket science and they're all smart people. After thinking about it I started to agree with daikyi that it isn't smart to underestimate people (although daikyi is the last person I ever would've expected to hear that from)





                    Originally posted by Hakulyte
                    I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                    Originally posted by YoshL
                    "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                    • ShadoWolfe
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 171

                      #1585
                      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                      On her own, raeko is by far the likeliest scum. Counting for partners she's even more likely to be scum. I don't think the reasoning that "lol but they wouldn't be able to figure it out" trumps any of that.

                      Plus, I think this "let's go UTR and hope they focus on each other" tactic is something she's done before successfully, so I can see her trying to play it out that way





                      Originally posted by Hakulyte
                      I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                      Originally posted by XelNya
                      " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                      Originally posted by YoshL
                      "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                      Originally posted by mellon_collie
                      "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                      • ShadoWolfe
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 171

                        #1586
                        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                        Suffice it to say I'd rather lynch her and lose to either of you than lynch either of you and lose to tinfoil and UTR strats





                        Originally posted by Hakulyte
                        I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                        Originally posted by XelNya
                        " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                        Originally posted by YoshL
                        "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                        Originally posted by mellon_collie
                        "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                        • Gradiant
                          FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 1100

                          #1587
                          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                          Originally posted by Daikyi
                          i dont really have much else to say, so as soon as yall say that youre ready, im pretty much ready
                          I'm pretty much good now

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                          • Daikyi
                            FFR Player
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 10

                            #1588
                            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                            haku

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                            • ShadoWolfe
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 171

                              #1589
                              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                              Hakulyte





                              Originally posted by Hakulyte
                              I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                              • mellon_collie
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2017
                                • 156

                                #1590
                                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                                OK so final thoughts before you guys fucking insta cause I haven't even been at my PC since I made that post? There's a difference between UTR and being busy as hell. I've been busy as hell, sorry for last phase but not really this one cause I'm still here and attempting to play

                                Just in case I get ninja'd I'm writing something really fast but I will expand if I have time

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