TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

Do we want to lynch a VT or a PR first and why ? Should we just go by tone at this point ?
Can we get info from a lynch that leads to a 2nd lynch that is sort of safe ?

Pretty much the questions everyone should be asking themselves at this point.

much as lynching a vt would actually have us play twg a bit more, we know there's a faker and we might as well look for that person

i think the second lynch is decently telegraphed at this point -
if antori flips town blocker then a cop is fake
if antori flips wolf then i know to lynch either a cop claim or shado

by comparison, trying to godfather hunt earlier and when we have a spare lynch feels risky because it easily could be a poor use of that spare lynch

but this shouldn't preclude people running through potential pairings; e.g. i could see mml/shado being a twofer because who offhandedly remembers who started hypocops for a cop claim at eod-2min, and would know to push roundbox as a role

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

roundbox is only locked under assumption there's no SK, which i guess is the dominating theory

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

Yeah I just don't wanna lose all my stuff that's on there. It's a great laptop too idk what happened.
Anyway.

In terms of believing roundbox over Antori, you kind of have to if you don't believe in an SK. Antori's claim relies on roundbox, meaning a 1shot roleblocker can't exist without the full roleblocker. I believed Antori at first pending roundbox confirmation from a full roleblocker (because he claimed one-shot before the full), but just now realized that if he's a wolf that he MAY have known for a fact that there's a roleblocker ONLY if the wolf kill was roleblocked on one night.

Meaning if there is no SK, I don't see a wolf claiming 1shot without knowing the full existed.

Also means that if Antori is a wolf, that one in daikyi/gradiant has to be his partner. Considering cop claims, that partner would likely be the godfather, or else one of the cops is lying.


Sorry for the disjointed thoughts, I just wanted to clarify the 1shot for you and things started falling into place. OK, be back in a bit

i don't understand the bolded

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

ah i got it

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

dai 0T is only possible now if a town is trying to make a big dick play slash move

[Gradiant]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

antori

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

and fmpov single-T is impossible

**TTTTT = 7/8x vt. this is a rather ridiculous world of 2 or 3 fake claims
CCBTTTT = 7x vt. in this setup there is only one inv immune, but either 1 or 2 of the green checks are fake. unsure i can deduce anything else from that
CCCCTTT = 7x vt. with 4 vt flips thus far, and two antitown that seer green, i know that 1/3 of the green checks is another vt, but can't conclude anything else and that leaves 2 scum among 4 players, 3 of whom have to be exactly the inv-immune scum if they are scum. flip-dependent whether this locks shado, i think - if antori and roundbox flip different colors then shado is lock red. but this doesn't feel like much of a real world anyway
CCBBTTT = 6x vt. this setup has 2 inv immune and assumes at least one fake peek, so can't conclude anything about the vt claims
CCCCBTT = 7x vt. in this world shado and i tdome. from others' perspective you lynch both of us always if antori somehow flips godfather, but otherwise there only has to be one wolf between us
CCCCBBT = 5x vt. this is invalidated fmpov bc i would have to be the only true vt claimant, though from others' perspective this is the exacting requirements i talked about before - shado and i would have to be exactly the wolves that flip red, and both the godfather and SK are in the green checks, and the remaining green check is the only true vt

so i think it still comes down to how much people believe in a fake cop. wolves are likely forced to reveal something about the setup overNight but i'm unsure whether it'll make my job any easier tomorrow

basically doing this because i wanted to see how much of the time you can lynch both me and shado and hit nothing and lose

[Antori]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

i dont know what to say at this point except you're all wrong

[Daikyi]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

i dont know what to say at this point except you're all wrong

so is there not a serial killer?

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

I am attempting to find a replacement mod, if I cannot find one, I will need to end the phase 10ish minutes early.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

roundbox (1)- MML
MML (1)- Antori
Antori (3)- roundbox, Haku, Gradiant
unvote- Shado, inD

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

I'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around the mechanics stuff, sorry

but when I play how I normally play I think Antori is the best lynch anyway. His claim and defense of his claim have been weak, and having his flip should hopefully help clear up the situation and some of the confusion I'm having atm

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

so yeah, declaring intent to vote for Antori I guess

Just don't wanna put it to close to insta if anyone still has stuff to add

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

wayward vagabond will be temp modding

please send night actions to me after phase end and not to him, should you have any

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

I'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around the mechanics stuff, sorry

but when I play how I normally play I think Antori is the best lynch anyway. His claim and defense of his claim have been weak, and having his flip should hopefully help clear up the situation and some of the confusion I'm having atm

how can i help

i could try doing a runthrough fypov of the current game state