TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

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  • Antori
    FFR Veteran
    • Aug 2018
    • 296

    #1231
    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

    Originally posted by inDheart
    i'm curious to know what you think your out to the day is
    my plan is to lynch MML and if he flips wolf I'm RBing gradiant and if he flips town I'm RBing either haku or shado, honestly any input on either would be great because i feel like neither of them can be wolf from how they play
    "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
    "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
    "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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    • MixMasterLar
      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2006
      • 5401

      #1232
      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

      Ok


      Antori Roundbox unvoted you awhile ago by his own admission making me correct on point 1 and you stretching on point 2.

      Now as for point 3: quote me where I voted you

      (I didn't)

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      • Antori
        FFR Veteran
        • Aug 2018
        • 296

        #1233
        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
        Now as for point 3: quote me where I voted you

        (I didn't)
        you're planning to though, you have me on your wolf list even though i hardclaimed
        "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
        "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
        "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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        • Gradiant
          FFR's Resident Trashpanda
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 1100

          #1234
          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          It would be a pretty sweet bonus if he somehow convinced me that your town in the process, but considering that I am openly accusing him of only having that opinion because he hasnt read my posts that closely, I kind of doubt he has any solid argument for your case.


          But hey I do promise to hear him out if it makes you feel better
          You're kinda acting like early game shado, making the game not fun

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          • roundbox
            fhqwhgads
            • Feb 2005
            • 2085

            #1235
            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

            Originally posted by MixMasterLar
            Ok


            Antori Roundbox unvoted you awhile ago by his own admission making me correct on point 1 and you stretching on point 2.

            Now as for point 3: quote me where I voted you

            (I didn't)
            I never voted for antoriiiiiiiiiii
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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            • inDheart
              Picker @ JAX2
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2011
              • 505

              #1236
              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

              Originally posted by Antori
              @InDheart you got your roleblocker claim and you still vote me?(keep in mind i claimed before the actual roleblocker)
              you're not an actual roleblocker?

              Originally posted by Antori
              so we have 2 cop claims that's CCCC and Roleblocker+ 1-shot that's BB that leaves us with 1T and that's wolf cop wolf blocker Godfather and a Serial killer

              let's consider this in practice abit:
              Serial killer either got roleblocked everyday(Gradiant/Daikyi being wolf) and having the wolf blocker block one of them on the other day, or they decided to not kill and i dont think that's the case in either of them but let's keep considering this, all the PRs in the game are already claimed and all evil roles claimed VT or are unclaimed which leaves inDheart/shado as only peopel not seered add in the Serial killer role and this becomes out of the question.

              that means one of the PR claims has to be lying, the setup is either 2T or 3T in that case

              let's take the case of 2T:
              this is the case where I'm apparently wolf and in this case we have the only possible team being me and shado but who is the Serial Killer here?? you? serial killer also gets red check
              two things:
              you can't rule out 1T because the serial killer is also investigation-immune. it would make me and shado lock wolves and then you know the godfather and sk are hiding in the vt claims. here's the bits from the OP:

              Originally posted by the sun fan
              A Serial Killer, if present, will always be both Investigation Immune and have a 1-shot Bulletproof Vest.

              --snip--

              Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Serial Killer.
              Abilities:

              Investigation Immune: You will appear as "Green" to any alignment checks.
              Passive Nightkill Immunity: You will survive a single attempt on your life, losing the 1-shot Bulletproof Vest if such an action occurs. You will be informed that your Vest was shot at if such an action occurs.
              Kill: Each night phase, you may target another player in the game to attempt to kill them.
              Win condition:

              You win when you are the last player alive, or if you and exactly one mafia member is alive, or if nothing can prevent either situation from occurring.
              the 2T case, from other players' perspective, is less clear. shado and i can both be wolves, or it could be only one of us and the godfather is green checked. shado and i are lock wolf to each other. 2T has no serial killer. in this setup you are a lock wolf because you're the only claim whose role is worth a single letter

              Originally posted by Antori
              ok now take a look at 3T:
              this is the case where Hakulyte/MML are the wolf and this is where things get complicated and this is where things start to make sense because this means some of the green checks are false and this is necessary
              assume Hakulyte is wolf, that means daikyi and raeko green check are false and with that we have inDheart/daikyi/shado/raeko with 2 of them being evil roles

              ok now how about the case of MML being wolf? that means only Gradiant check alone is false and that gives us raeko/Gradiant/shado with two of them being evil roles

              i think everyone here forgot about the whole lynching antori means there is infact a Serial killer without a doubt so take that into consideration

              now if you take a look at who pushed on who and who could be the wolf teams you'll see where my vote on MML is coming from in my previous post
              ok so never mind my question, you did find your out to the day. i think your second grouping there, in the case that mml's a wolf, is wrong; it needs me at least (because i'm disconnected from both the cop claims). these setups don't really have definitive godfather pools far as i can tell so it may just be playing twg after that

              wait, did you realize SK gets green checked in thinking out this one? maybe i don't understand your grouping

              Originally posted by Antori
              ????

              why would i RC him and not NK??? if i apparently got RBed AND I'm wolf then you're saying roundbox RBed me???

              inDheart please put more thought into your posts
              you wouldn't have known he was a role, but role copping him would tell you he was, and also being blocked would tell you the setup has a blocker

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              • inDheart
                Picker @ JAX2
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2011
                • 505

                #1237
                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                i was the one who voted/unvoted antori

                if i need to change my avatar so it's better distinguishable from roundbox's lmk

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                • roundbox
                  fhqwhgads
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 2085

                  #1238
                  Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                  Originally posted by inDheart
                  i was the one who voted/unvoted antori

                  if i need to change my avatar so it's better distinguishable from roundbox's lmk
                  BRB, gotta get my burgers out
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                  • Gradiant
                    FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1100

                    #1239
                    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                    Originally posted by roundbox
                    BRB
                    it's a birb

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #1240
                      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                      Originally posted by Gradiant
                      you threw out a soft which most people might not've gotten because of what i had posted earlier about closing out when i saw tekken, but then how you reacted after the fact with making sure that everybody read that one single post made it seem not so genuine as it could be
                      Comments like this make me feel like you're not paying attention to what I'm actually saying. I don't see how point to it makes it less genuine, or how if you could prove that it does make it less genuine, that Roundbox's EoD looks any better. If it looked that bad to point it out (and I mean, the fact that I had to because of his push is bad not saying it isnt) then he would respond much more aggressively "got you" at that EoD
                      Originally posted by Gradiant
                      2) It doesn't matter whatsoever whether anybody else in any other game has softed a block. I'm not gonna touch the whole precedent thing
                      This is me explicitly asking you to touch it and answer if it's believable that Roundbox would do it.

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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5401

                        #1241
                        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                        Originally posted by roundbox
                        I never voted for antoriiiiiiiiiii
                        Ah, right.

                        I mean then I rest my case

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                        • Antori
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Aug 2018
                          • 296

                          #1242
                          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                          Originally posted by inDheart
                          you're not an actual roleblocker?
                          the roleblocker claim I'm referring to is roundbox there, I'm 1-shot

                          Originally posted by inDheart
                          wait, did you realize SK gets green checked in thinking out this one? maybe i don't understand your grouping
                          no i didn't i removed the other cop's checks from the list since haku has more checks it makes MML's wolf team tighter[/QUOTE]

                          Originally posted by inDheart
                          you wouldn't have known he was a role, but role copping him would tell you he was, and also being blocked would tell you the setup has a blocker
                          i wasn't blocked and roundbox can confirm, i dont think i would of known if i was roleblocked anyway because I'm not wolf and i never used my night action

                          I'm not sure about rolecropping,(i assumed it was rolechecking on my other post) how would i know the setup had a roleblocker instead of Angel or Innocent Child or even vigilante, this is a stretch
                          "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
                          "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
                          "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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                          • Gradiant
                            FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1100

                            #1243
                            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                            Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                            This is me explicitly asking you to touch it and answer if it's believable that Roundbox would do it.
                            You quoting this together is confusing when it comes to what the precedent is referring to. If you're talking about a precedent of people softing that they're a roleblock, then who cares. It doesn't matter whether or not it's happened in other games. If you're talking about a precedent where roundbox softs a role, I don't know because I don't remember all the games I've played with him to tell whether he may or may not do it. These are both things i've said already.

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                            • Gradiant
                              FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1100

                              #1244
                              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                              Originally posted by Antori
                              i wasn't blocked and roundbox can confirm
                              what do you mean?

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                              • Antori
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Aug 2018
                                • 296

                                #1245
                                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                                Originally posted by inDheart
                                i was the one who voted/unvoted antori

                                if i need to change my avatar so it's better distinguishable from roundbox's lmk
                                it's fine i'm just blind sorry, it's pretty late night right now and i should go sleep soon
                                "humans are allergic to happiness" -exurb1a
                                "the only successful prank is the one you just dont f***ing pull" - penguinz0
                                "Happiness is an unachievable myth peddled by those too afraid to admit that the world's default state is misery" - exurb1a

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