TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

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  • inDheart
    Picker @ JAX2
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    • Aug 2011
    • 505

    #451
    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

    roundbox how serious was your gradiant vote

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    • inDheart
      Picker @ JAX2
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2011
      • 505

      #452
      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

      might be pivoting more on wayward as i think more about him; "wolves have an agenda, you just need to find it" vs. the floaty site meta are warring atm

      antori doesn't fit in that same category because he's not really floating

      lynching people not playing the game is too appealing

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      • MixMasterLar
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        • Aug 2006
        • 5401

        #453
        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

        Lynch absolutely needs to be between Antori and Wayward at this point: Antori is making reads up per post about them and Wayward is literally not even paying attention to his own post. Both are anti-town and unacceptable behavior.


        Originally posted by roundbox
        And in regards to MML: one thing I've learned from TWG recently is that leaving someone alive/unpressured because they will "prove themselves later" is not the best way to approach the game. I think sitting back on your read of me until later in the game is too safe (and can lead to you being exploited as the player can act accordingly knowing you're looking for certain actions in future phases)

        Plus if enough people have earned the reputation of "let's wait on them," then we just end up with a small list of usual suspects on d0 and are lynching out of this pool. rand% dictates this can be problematic (one example that sticks out is a game Nakah played a while back and was lynched very early on and was a blue role)
        It's was down to "Do I want to call out Roundbox for nothing all phase so he can just go play DOTA again or do I want to use my limited time this week talking to people who will actually play the game d0"

        That may be unfair since you are proving to be present but for better or worse I just don't invest in some things anymore. IE: Trying to get Xel to say anything useful d0.

        Originally posted by XelNya
        But let me toss a bone

        I will not be lynching star, roundbox or yoshl today

        #fact
        These mean jack all without any commentary
        But you already knew that!

        Originally posted by Daikyi
        mml said something about me being a lot less aggro and using tactics against him twice as a wolf

        except the 2 games i played recently, one was star crossed, one was FE
        and i was town/wolf in those 2 games lmao
        I absolutely remember you doing it twice in a fairly short time period and being pissed at myself the second time.

        But I did check up in the history thread / searched for the Star Crossed game and apparently that never happened so ????

        I will concede I was wrong

        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        Did MML make a post about haku being town or something
        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
        Don't over think it. I saw a post by MML and said to myself "I'm going to post this" and so I did. I still haven't read the thread but I will I promise you
        This after he said Haku was clear after reading my post?? I even made a pocket joke.

        This alone is worth a lynch

        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        I didn't even see this until Star quoted it but lol, follow it up with what? I answered the question already, if you have anything else you need following up with, feel free to ask
        Yes can you show me where you addressed it before I made that comment?

        Originally posted by star-crossed
        Also honestly knowing that you have salty tendencies but try to avoid them makes some things make more sense

        You do not go out and say it, but it feels like you are giving him the benefit of the doubt with sussing you
        Imma put a pin in this and come back to it much, much later.

        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        I still think he hasn't posted as much game related content as I would like, which makes it seem like he isn't scum hunting as much as I would expect from him at this point. he does normally make a lot of one line posts as either alignment, but I feel like he usually goes try-hard as town and makes longer wall type posts as well and I haven't seen many of those from him yet
        Not on d0.

        Originally posted by Hakulyte
        Okay what are you even doing.
        Fucking

        Thank you

        Originally posted by inDheart
        antori's town

        the reasons for pressure/votes are fair, but i like dai trying to continue the conversation with antori because any other treatment winds up along the lines of "let's lynch him to teach him a lesson" instead of trying to sort it within the context of the game
        Is someone saying he should be lynched just to teach him a lesson?

        I think they're saying that he needs to be lynch because he's not solving the game and that's pretty anti town, and you lynch the person who is the most anti town especially d0

        You flatly declaring that he's town rubs me the wrong way somehow. If you wish to defend him then comment on how a town could play the game the way he has; show us where he's coming from if you really believe that.

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        • MixMasterLar
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          • Aug 2006
          • 5401

          #454
          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

          Originally posted by inDheart
          lynching people not playing the game is too appealing
          Everyone has more then 10 post (Double the limit SunFan set) so if you see people not playing the game it's probably work seriously considering

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          • MixMasterLar
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            • Aug 2006
            • 5401

            #455
            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

            worth* not work

            Basically if they are not playing with 10 posts under their belt that's an issue

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            • Gradiant
              FFR's Resident Trashpanda
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              • Sep 2012
              • 1100

              #456
              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
              Everyone has more then 10 post (Double the limit SunFan set) so if you see people not playing the game it's probably work seriously considering
              Just because somebody might have more than 10 posts doesn't mean the number of posts they have where they are actually contributing to the game is more than the limit sunfan set.

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              • MixMasterLar
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                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #457
                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                I think because of Antori's language barrier and the fact that I've seen him as town want to double back on reads without properly explaining when/why he did so I could believe a world where he is derpin' hard and loud


                Wayward on the other hand has basically done nothing serious this game that I can recall other then saying he agreed with my post about Haku and then denied that he knew I made a post about haku just to double back and said he was memeing with my post about Haku ????. This is so extremely bad and the fact that it's all I have to go off of him gives me the impression he legit just forgot about it

                Which isn't a town mindset because town are actively trying to solve.

                Wolves on the other hand know the answer and don't worry as much about solving the game as just blending in with what's happening. A wolf forgets what he says in this particular case much faster then a town ever will.

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                • MixMasterLar
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                  • Aug 2006
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                  #458
                  Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                  Originally posted by Gradiant
                  Just because somebody might have more than 10 posts doesn't mean the number of posts they have where they are actually contributing to the game is more than the limit sunfan set.
                  Hopefully you saw my next post which probably better illustrates what I'm trying to say but in short I agree 100%

                  It's why it's an issue

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                  • star-crossed
                    FFR Player
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 475

                    #459
                    Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                    I definitely would hang wayward over antori
                    twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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                    • Gradiant
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 1100

                      #460
                      Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      Hopefully you saw my next post which probably better illustrates what I'm trying to say but in short I agree 100%

                      It's why it's an issue
                      well yeah, i wasn't trying to argue there, just an add on

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                      • inDheart
                        Picker @ JAX2
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 505

                        #461
                        Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        I think because of Antori's language barrier and the fact that I've seen him as town want to double back on reads without properly explaining when/why he did so I could believe a world where he is derpin' hard and loud
                        you basically answered your own question to me here (and i was very tempted to respond to it with "you are, honey")

                        because while i'd prefer if people posted understandable progressions and had degrees in argumentation and things like that, antori's had these kind of form/action mismatch issues before and people have been able to townread him correctly despite them. his play scans as baseline anti-town that way but it doesn't make him a wolf

                        so i'm more left wondering what's different here. i don't think he's been reaching exceptionally hard to excuse himself out of his reads, and so far people have been able to question him and find out he does actually have some reasons for what he believes

                        he is the kind of player that i expect town may want to clean up at some point regardless of actual alignment, but at present is not a great choice for wolf

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                        • inDheart
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                          • Aug 2011
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                          #462
                          Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                          Everyone has more then 10 post (Double the limit SunFan set) so if you see people not playing the game it's probably work seriously considering
                          you kinda...just discovered this? i'm lumping this in with you picking out wayward afterward

                          there are a number of people that feel like voidplayers to me at any given time because they're only semi-around or haven't been at the same time as me, so even if people have met the requirement, fair amount of wanting to have them get it in gear

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                          • MixMasterLar
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                            • Aug 2006
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                            #463
                            Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                            Originally posted by inDheart
                            you basically answered your own question to me here (and i was very tempted to respond to it with "you are, honey")
                            I wasn't making that point when you made your comment. Regardless of where I fall on the issue afterwards I didn't see anyone saying/implying he needed to be taught a lesson.

                            You are preemptively scolding people before you even explain why you would defend him and it strikes me as backwards. You're defense of him is praising Yosh ??? ?? ? ???? ??

                            Originally posted by inDheart
                            you kinda...just discovered this? i'm lumping this in with you picking out wayward afterward

                            there are a number of people that feel like voidplayers to me at any given time because they're only semi-around or haven't been at the same time as me, so even if people have met the requirement, fair amount of wanting to have them get it in gear
                            I always check postcount on d0's EoD and just generally keep an eye on it out of habit. Helps me not forget people because they slowly stop posting. Nothing to do with my point though.

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                            • MixMasterLar
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                              • Aug 2006
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                              #464
                              Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                              Originally posted by MixMasterLar

                              You are preemptively scolding people before you even explain why you would defend him and it strikes me as backwards
                              Basically what I want to say here is that it feels like you didn't have a good reason to defend him here and want to say that what I explained is what you where thinking while at the same time trying to cut me down a little.


                              You are legit making me want to switch to Antori and see what he flips now, and go after you should he flip red.

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                              • XelNya
                                [Kaho]
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 3369

                                #465
                                Re: TWG CLXXXV: C9+++++++++ Game Thread

                                Originally posted by inDheart
                                remember when being thrown off was indicative for haku?

                                does this feel like that or no
                                it does not

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