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08-23-2018, 05:37 PM | #21 | |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
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Do you respect their ability to identify for themselves when they feel that way? Or will you only accept it if somebody can formulate an objective meaning for "be nice to me"? Like...isn't it a pretty clearly understood concept in modern adult society that "Be nice to me" means "Don't do things you think will be mean, or things that, having done them once, you've been informed are not in fact nice"? |
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08-23-2018, 07:06 PM | #22 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
Yes
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08-23-2018, 08:22 PM | #23 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
I'd rather have celery bully me than mina because celly boi has an extremely good voice
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08-23-2018, 09:16 PM | #24 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
Can confirm
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08-23-2018, 10:13 PM | #26 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
you're right i always have his back
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08-23-2018, 11:22 PM | #27 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
sometimes i think and try to figure out what i did to garner animosity from people
then i realize c'est la vie eh
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08-24-2018, 04:52 AM | #28 | |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
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The aforementioned advice is always is context-dependent, and thus statements like "You should be nice to people" strictly speaking aren't actually statements because they have no truth value This is why moral precepts are so hard to define They are almost entirely interpretive instead of descriptive, but that doesn't make them useless -- they still largely serve as good heuristics for pro-social behavior. The advice is just that: advice, not some declaration of proper moral behavior |
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08-24-2018, 05:38 AM | #29 | |
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I have this lady at work (who is in her 50's - not that age matters), that constantly runs around in circles and complains about how busy she is. So I'll give her a hand, and on multiple occasions she will yell at you and say, ' I didn't need your help, why are you young people so disrespectful and trying to take my job '. 🙄 I'm not sure how me helping you to be less stressed is me being disrespectful. 🤷
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08-24-2018, 07:56 AM | #30 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
it's probably 'cause your nickname is celery
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08-24-2018, 09:16 AM | #31 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
you have such a sad worldview
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08-24-2018, 10:27 AM | #32 |
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08-24-2018, 10:41 AM | #33 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
But it's trivial.
It is not defined to what extent of interest the hurt is meant, and that just voids the whole point of value. For example, one could kill a person for a 5$ bill while another one could only kill if their whole family was in grave danger. And saying people are objectively worthless is true only under the assumption that life has no intrinsic value, which is (afaik) a subjective matter of discussion. So yeah, trivial statements. |
08-24-2018, 01:55 PM | #34 | |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
Anyone can decide the value of anything from their own perspective so, it seems weird to me that you guys would assume other people are worthless.
Being selfish is part of life because you have to take care of yourself first or else you won't have the health/energy to do anything. That doesn't mean you don't care about others. It's just a logical priority. There should be room left to invest yourself into others and get something constructive out of it. If I met a stranger, I'd be respectful at first to try to get a feel of who they are and if it feels like we're both interested into having a discussion on a similar wavelength, I may eventually just say how I really think about things in a more straightforward manner. It's like layers of politeness/comfort. People do filter what they say and I think it's a mutually understood concept overall because people tend to do this unconsciously. If you give respectful/nice vibes to people they may pick up on it. If you have no faith in them, they might pick up on it too. People can kind of read into each others and get a decent idea of what you're about. So, if you're hoping for a specific conversation, you'll have a better chance if you share concerns about it rather than trying to put others on some sort of imaginary pedestral based on how you think they are. tl;dr: It's relative to how you want to perceive your own environment and people. (lol, I'm kind of saying that ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" are both mutually understood, but also potentially vague because I'm not aware of if this is something everyone would do, but I just assume that's the case.) Quote:
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08-25-2018, 12:45 AM | #36 |
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Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu
It doesn't matter if you ask if she wants help or not, she refuses it either way. She's the type of person that panics/complains she's busy instead of actually doing the work. Because we work in emergency, it's so important that you work in a team, accept help (I feel like she sees help as being 'weak' + she's already said that myself and other young staff are trying to take her job) and if she's flustering about not doing anything productive, while refusing to accept help, I'm just gonna do it. Cos otherwise things won't get done. Trust me, myself, management and several other staff have called her out on it a million times with no improvement.
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Being nice to me is a way of emotionally showing respect. While showing respect is a systen of using your value system to create intrinsic value for others, and create a logistal loving energy.
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Ahhhh arch thread
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