TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

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  • the sun fan
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2017
    • 656

    #856
    Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
    Not sure if I expected this of him, you'd think he'd either say "You have to be careful with your attitude" or defend himself for making that observation. He digs his heels in a little deep here is what I'm saying
    yes, I dug in my heels because you overreacted and I didn't do anything wrong.
    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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    • the sun fan
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 656

      #857
      Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

      Pretty sure star just didn't shoot

      she's from ToS, where vigis are punished severely for shooting towns (via guilt), so I don't think she would be of the mindset that shooting, even if the shot misses, is good for town, which is incredibly unfortunate
      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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      • inDheart
        Picker @ JAX2
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2011
        • 505

        #858
        Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

        Originally posted by the sun fan
        Pretty sure star just didn't shoot

        she's from ToS, where vigis are punished severely for shooting towns (via guilt), so I don't think she would be of the mindset that shooting, even if the shot misses, is good for town, which is incredibly unfortunate
        also a lot of ToS mechanics make it very easy to hit wolves and bad vigi play makes the game frustrating

        ok

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        • MixMasterLar
          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2006
          • 5400

          #859
          Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

          Originally posted by Wineandbread
          What do you mean someone is protecting Gradiant?
          Have you like, not read my posts from the last day phase or are you just trying to make me repeat myself?

          I feel like someone protected Gradiant and the last nightkill was Vigi. This time wolves decided to skip Gradiant and go blue hunting since it clearly didn't work. This assumes vigi shot first night which I feel almost anyone would do in this situation.

          Originally posted by Wineandbread
          It's clear to me wolves are blue hunting, and they hit the mark this time. Still not good to assume a doc/rb are in the game.
          Explain the last nightkill then. I get that some people think wolves are intentionally jut not killing IC but I don't believe that near enough.

          Originally posted by Wineandbread
          I think the bolded is uhh... interesting of you to say. I guess it's because you are trying to read into the setup too much again but from my perspective, we are not too far removed from some of the worst case scenarios.
          With that attitude maybe

          Originally posted by Wineandbread
          If you don't count yourself, and you shouldn't be counting Gradiant, that leaves 3. And you didn't address me in particular, why am I getting a pass here?
          I don't ever exclude anyone (including myself) in such observations because sure as shit someone will throw a damn hissyfit about me doing so every game. Oh but Lar you're in that group as well waaaahhhh why you gonna be hypocritical

          I trust you're smart enough to not go after Gradiant and to know I ain't going after myself here.


          Originally posted by Wineandbread
          And you didn't address me in particular, why am I getting a pass here?
          You're not. No one said you where off the hook.

          I am saying that I'm a little more impressed with you then the other two.

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          • MixMasterLar
            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 5400

            #860
            Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

            Originally posted by roundbox
            I guess I should have seen this coming after your light criticism of sunfan
            Is this all we're going to get before you go play Dota again?

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5400

              #861
              Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

              Originally posted by the sun fan
              yes, I dug in my heels because you overreacted and I didn't do anything wrong.
              K, well let's flip the coin and have you tell me what exactly you felt that you did right this game?

              Because it's easy to say that my expectations of you don't really matter but the truth is I don't see you too hungry to find wolves right now and your post making me feel like you're up to something is the most tangible thing I got from you.

              Originally posted by the sun fan
              Pretty sure star just didn't shoot

              she's from ToS, where vigis are punished severely for shooting towns (via guilt), so I don't think she would be of the mindset that shooting, even if the shot misses, is good for town, which is incredibly unfortunate
              I can't fathom this is the case.

              To believe this is to believe that wolves did not try shooting Gradiant (Which get most of you do) and I can't wrap my mind around that.

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5400

                #862
                Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                Legit not related

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                • the sun fan
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 656

                  #863
                  Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                  Originally posted by inDheart
                  bad vigi play makes the game frustrating
                  how unusual
                  TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                  FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                  • the sun fan
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 656

                    #864
                    Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    I feel like someone protected Gradiant and the last nightkill was Vigi. This time wolves decided to skip Gradiant and go blue hunting since it clearly didn't work. This assumes vigi shot first night which I feel almost anyone would do in this situation.
                    She would've (should've) claimed it, so no, I think that theory is out.
                    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                    • the sun fan
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 656

                      #865
                      Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      K, well let's flip the coin and have you tell me what exactly you felt that you did right this game?
                      considering I am town and have offended with stuff outside of the game, the only thing that remains is that my reads haven't been good

                      so everything else I'd say I've done right.
                      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                      • the sun fan
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 656

                        #866
                        Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                        ok the more I think about it maaaaaybe she didn't know she can (should) claim for free

                        not really worth talking about, I guess (I'm aware I said she prolly didn't shoot first). I don't really see a deep mystery that needs to be solved in the nightkills.
                        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                        • the sun fan
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 656

                          #867
                          Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                          claim for free assuming she had already shot*
                          TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                          FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                          • MixMasterLar
                            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5400

                            #868
                            Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by the sun fan
                            so everything else I'd say I've done right.
                            Which would be.....?

                            I mean you haven't lead any votes, admit your reads haven't been up to snuff, I don't see you going around grillin' people or trying to cross reference what they are saying versus what they said....


                            Let me ask you what you ask Roundbox: Why are you town? What have you done that points to you being town?

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                            • MixMasterLar
                              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 5400

                              #869
                              Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                              Because so far all I get is an uneasy feeling that you're playing low and humdrum until you see a breaking point and can push a mislynch; more or less skating by.

                              And while that happens on d0 for you alot as town (I pointed this out d0 I believe) by this point it shouldn't be an issue


                              And ditto for you Roundbox by this point I expect to see a little fire.

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                              • the sun fan
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 656

                                #870
                                Re: TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

                                I don't know if I led blind, but I definitely wasn't complacent with that lynch

                                I led wabby's lynch, he just didn't die.

                                I think you should look at the progression of my reads to see why I'm town. Nothing should feel off there and its something that I think people read me on with success.

                                This is more of the same old same old from you, I think. Not meeting whatever expectations you have of me is par for the course.
                                TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                                FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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