Turbo XVIII - Time Travel Turbo (Redux)

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Meta would say that this is a towny pattern in your case because of our previous game.

guy who hasn't been around in months here, can i get a tl;dr on why dbp disregarding your first post is towny

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

also, honestly I think finding wolves is better than finding towns --- or rather, I should say that finding towns arises as a consequence of finding wolves

theoretically "searching for a town circle" makes sense, but that behavior makes it extraordinarily difficult for other towns to determine your alignment, at least based on this behavior alone

the motivation for town is hunting wolves and this is usually easy to notice from other players. At least for me personally, there is something base, something primal about hunting for bad guys. This mindset permeates most of my non-shitposty actions in this game. This mindset is comparatively easy to locate and is a reason why I am often townread when I'm town. That mindset of "hunting wolves" is hard to replicate for most wolves, me included.

So I would posit that "hunting wolves" is a better behavior than "solving the game" on average. It makes it easier for other members of town to correctly identify you.

"Solving the game" arises as a consequence of "finding the wolves", not the other way around.

strongly agree

Making a town circle in this game is especially dangerous because this roster has several players that are capable of achieving deep wolf status. Thinking in terms of town circles runs the risk of not paying enough attention to players that need a lot of it just so you can get to a POE solution.

If you really want to think in terms of town circles, do it in more than one universe, be aware of players that are unsafe to assume are town even when they are acting really towny.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

guy who hasn't been around in months here, can i get a tl;dr on why dbp disregarding your first post is towny

It's as dumb as "he did the same thing last game and he was town". It's not really valuable, but it's a something. Well, it's my read. Just put a tag on it and be like "Haku thought DBP was towny".

Originally Posted by Tokzic

Making a town circle in this game is especially dangerous because this roster has several players that are capable of achieving deep wolf status. Thinking in terms of town circles runs the risk of not paying enough attention to players that need a lot of it just so you can get to a POE solution.

If you really want to think in terms of town circles, do it in more than one universe, be aware of players that are unsafe to assume are town even when they are acting really towny.

You want to break your own comfort zone if you want to find wolves eventually. I'm literally volunteering to get my hands dirty this game.

I know there's many types of players who does multiple types of plays, but you have to take risks somewhere if you want to even have a chance to catch them.

Honestly, we probably just play very differently.

[ShadoWolfe]

TFW you think everyone is overreacting to everything

@Hakulyte, do you think making a joke reads list is Alignment Indicative?

Also, thanks. To reiterate, 100% of your entrance post was written before you saw your role? You didn't go back and edit any of it after?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

@Hakulyte, do you think making a joke reads list is Alignment Indicative?

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[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

TFW you think everyone is overreacting to everything

@Hakulyte, do you think making a joke reads list is Alignment Indicative?

Also, thanks. To reiterate, 100% of your entrance post was written before you saw your role? You didn't go back and edit any of it after?

Yes because it's a misleading joke read list without a valid reason and I didn't like his reaction to my concern.

He didn't say "I'm shitposting lol"

He went like:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

i don't get what you dont get. it doesnt matter if someone has posted or not they get a wolf lean because i don't know their alignment

That's not a motivation.

WV didn't wake up in the morning thinking "I will post this joke read list thing because it doesn't matter if someone has posted or not".

I refuse to believe that.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yes because it's a misleading joke read list without a valid reason and I didn't like his reaction to my concern.

He didn't say "I'm shitposting lol"

He went like:

Oh, good point.

@Wayward Vagabond, how do you reconcile the two separate reasons you gave for the same reads list?
you said (quotes are italicized):

"at the start of any game or game that i replace in i have everyone as a wolf lean because i don't know whether or not they are town. so everyone is under suspicion"
and
"i don't get what you dont get. it doesnt matter if someone has posted or not they get a wolf lean because i don't know their alignment"

but you also dismissed the list as a joke, here:
"i dont get how that ruins my credibility either because like it should also be obvious that the reads list was a joke more so than anything."
and
"the joke being that no one should have a reads list this early."

again, how do you reconcile those two reasons if they're both true?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Oh, good point.

@Wayward Vagabond, how do you reconcile the two separate reasons you gave for the same reads list?
you said (quotes are italicized):

"at the start of any game or game that i replace in i have everyone as a wolf lean because i don't know whether or not they are town. so everyone is under suspicion"
and
"i don't get what you dont get. it doesnt matter if someone has posted or not they get a wolf lean because i don't know their alignment"

but you also dismissed the list as a joke, here:
"i dont get how that ruins my credibility either because like it should also be obvious that the reads list was a joke more so than anything."
and
"the joke being that no one should have a reads list this early."

again, how do you reconcile those two reasons if they're both true?

wtf, not you too...

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

wtf, not you too...

lmao
I, too, saw the sarcasm and thought Haku was fixating a bit hard on a joke reads list at first
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then I noticed WV actually gave two different reasonings as to why he wrote the post, and they're pretty different.
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Because he gave different (and possibly contradictory) reasonings, he needs to explain how they both made rational sense when he wrote them (therefore are both true)
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if he can't explain why they're both true, I'll assume one is a lie. Dismiss it as a joke that I'm overreacting to all you want, but catching lies is pretty much the only proven way to catch wolves in this game

soo yeah, call me a cheesecake, but I'll still happily wait for @Wayward Vagabond's response to #101

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Oh, good point.

@Wayward Vagabond, how do you reconcile the two separate reasons you gave for the same reads list?
you said (quotes are italicized):

"at the start of any game or game that i replace in i have everyone as a wolf lean because i don't know whether or not they are town. so everyone is under suspicion"
and
"i don't get what you dont get. it doesnt matter if someone has posted or not they get a wolf lean because i don't know their alignment"

but you also dismissed the list as a joke, here:
"i dont get how that ruins my credibility either because like it should also be obvious that the reads list was a joke more so than anything."
and
"the joke being that no one should have a reads list this early."

again, how do you reconcile those two reasons if they're both true?

Both reasons can be true!! I don't get what you want me to do here. I don't see what you're not seeing

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yes because it's a misleading joke read list without a valid reason and I didn't like his reaction to my concern.

He didn't say "I'm shitposting lol"

He went like:


That's not a motivation.

WV didn't wake up in the morning thinking "I will post this joke read list thing because it doesn't matter if someone has posted or not".

I refuse to believe that.

lmao

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yes because it's a misleading joke read list without a valid reason and I didn't like his reaction to my concern.

He didn't say "I'm shitposting lol"

He went like:


That's not a motivation.

WV didn't wake up in the morning thinking "I will post this joke read list thing because it doesn't matter if someone has posted or not".

I refuse to believe that.

I feel like you're never going to be able to read me if you refuse to believe that

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I feel like you're never going to be able to read me if you refuse to believe that

Do you understand what I want ?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Also, thanks. To reiterate, 100% of your entrance post was written before you saw your role? You didn't go back and edit any of it after?

I corrected grammar mistakes in the last 30 seconds before posting. Guilty has charged. Still missed that [/b] tag. I will never forgive myself for it.

If you're looking for alignment indicative stuff. It's not the right post.

I'm just telling ya because it's a really long post and I don't want you to spend 12 hours rereading it in hope to find some mysterious secret.