TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Are you actually serious right now?


See in normal games where you ain't lying out your ass, once you out you're suppose to hard clear everyone you can and leave that info. When you die, the other info checks out and we have confirmed towns that we know not to lynch. But I guess since you escaped fucking -two- nights as an outed blue you wouldn't understand the importance of rushing out the details would you?


You seem really intent on finding that other medic and it concerns me.


Here's a better idea: Don't fucking claim? Unless you feel like you may die don't out yourself. Sneak info out if you must.


Why would you assume this considering we have no kills?


So when you save people, people die
When you don't save people we get no deaths.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmmm


I won't.


Shouldn't even need to tell how I feel about this

In order:

Yes. That is the worst case scenario. That is what has to be evaluated by the other prs before the claim. Not a bad worst case and a really good best case. Very worth a claim

No idea what you mean here. I don't have a save to claim so I'd be "lying out my ass" by claiming I angel'd someone last night like Cel was suggesting. Not only would that be bad because I'm lying, I would have to out my save because why wouldn't I if I saved someone and then whoever I decided to say I had a save on would be confirmed for nothing. It is terrible play and I don't understand how it ever became a discussion.

Yes I'm intent on finding this other medic. I think it's a good idea for literally every role to claim today. We only need 5 towns and we have auto. That's not very hard with so many actions last night.

Same as the last point. You seem to think that the claiming punishment is based on the role itself but I highly doubt it. First off Sunfan mentioned that claiming specifically character name is bad. Secondly every fun game in DM that has some sort of mechanic to punish claiming is always based on the flavor of the role not the role itself. I'd imagine that holds true in other forms of mafia because that is a way to punish that makes sense.

At the time I thought there was no possibility of mafia not killing because I thought it gave us an extra lynch. Knowing that's not true it's a possibility that they no killed but one that I highly doubt. They would have to be ok with leaving me alive (the only way I'm ever dying at this point is if there's another claim I'm protecting btw) and be ok with there being an extra town around.

And what the fuck do you think that means? Do you think that I'm mafia, planned to go into this day with no kills and then not claim credit for the save. Like I understand if you guys want to go into your paranoid worlds where you think that I'm doing meta things that mafia would never do so that I won't be read as mafia but eventually you need to wake up and see that I'm not a mafia that's trying real hard to game throw and that I'm actually just town. I've been trying to avoid saying shit like this because let's be honest it doesn't actually help for me to bring it up it's much better if other people do but I doubt it will happen so I'm just going to come out with it.

Let's make a list of all the things that make no sense for me to do as mafia this game:

- I try to build a wagon on Xel, my partner, for the last few hours of an eod that didn't really have a wagon. If that had taken off I really doubt Xel would have defended himself well and I would have killed my partner for no reason.

- I kill two of the three people that voted on me d0. I then kill the third person the next night.

- I claim on day 1 knowing that there is no chance that I am going to be able to live through the rest of the game with a claim that early. That puts my life on a timer when it didn't have to be.

- I decide to flip my tunnel that I've had for the whole game (Xiz) on the first day that I could actually have made something happen with it. If I was mafia and Xiz was town than it's not even that bad for me because I'd been developing that read for so long that it makes sense for me to kill him that day. Easiest misslynch ever. Hell I could have just claimed a red on him and it wouldn't have been that bad. If I already decided living on an expiration date was ok than why not.

- I decide not to claim a save on a day with no kill even though I have almost no reason not to. Sure I said that I was going to use mystic yesterday but how many people would have argued with me if I came out and said I lied and used angel anyways.

- I decide to openly role hunt in a situation where if too many towns got confirmed it could just be game over. Also if someone important comes out I have to leave them alive or die the next day.

There is no reason for me to do this much shit that is against my wincon. There is too much here to just spin it as "it's so dumb it's smart".


I don't think I'm actually going to get a reads list done tonight because I just spent another hour writing up another post on basically the same shit I just said. I don't want to hear shit about how "lazy" I am because I'm already spending a majority of my free time playing this game instead of enjoying the start of my summer break. It's not like mafia isn't fun but when I have to spend most of my time repeating things that should be pretty clear I have a hard time enjoying it.