TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[TWG Jade Harley]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Do it for the game, not Haku.

its for you because nobody else is badgering me or has a problem with it!!

unvote me and go evaluate other people later, and if you still somehow think im a wolf vote me! its that simple!!

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I care about you talking about why you think Haku can somehow post as a wolf
I care a lot about that point, actually

I said the same thing last game, but only because I thoroughly believe it.
Maybe you don't understand, Egregious Miscalculations shows exactly how well Haku can post as a wolf.
You can all keep saying "oh, lone wolf is basically SK though" and, while I agree that it's a lot harder to read lone wolves because of a lack of partner association, tone doesn't change as much. With the knowledge that he was wolf, Haku made a lot of seemingly genuine posts that got him townread until endgame. That doesn't change whether he knows his partners or not, because he still has to come up with bullshit reasons as to why he "thinks someone's a wolf", and genuinely defend himself against accusations that he's a wolf.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I said the same thing last game, but only because I thoroughly believe it.
Maybe you don't understand, Egregious Miscalculations shows exactly how well Haku can post as a wolf.
You can all keep saying "oh, lone wolf is basically SK though" and, while I agree that it's a lot harder to read lone wolves because of a lack of partner association, tone doesn't change as much. With the knowledge that he was wolf, Haku made a lot of seemingly genuine posts that got him townread until endgame. That doesn't change whether he knows his partners or not, because he still has to come up with bullshit reasons as to why he "thinks someone's a wolf", and genuinely defend himself against accusations that he's a wolf.

Meaning, he's definitely capable of posting genuinely under pressure in mid-day. I think that changes in later phases and closer to EoDs, which is why I maintain that he solves himself more often than not.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Shado, if you don't want me to lock vote you like a retard, can you please give up on me being wolf here.

It sucks, but Egregious Miscalculation should have been a loss for me if MML voted me as he initially intended.

The only real wolf MVP here is actually DFR.

[TWG Jade Harley]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Logging in...
ID: gardenGnostic
Pass: ******

Welcome Jade Harley!

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GG opened memo on board TWG Stuff~


GG: /mood literally annoyed
Jade Harley set mood to literally annoyed

>Jade Harley is literally annoyed<

GG: /logoff

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

You literally voted me in that game and I was falling apart at the end.

[Witch of Certainty]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I've read everything now and I'm still asking it

As a supposedly new player, why would you think it's obvious?

Content rate, aggression, and reputation?

Do I have to be familar with his reputation to guess that's a potential factor?
Also, he has a quote in his sig that's someone essentially calling him a pretty effective player

I really don't like having to point these out to you.
Also, I never said it was obvious, just not worth a "Wtf" reaction.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Also, Shado, if you're here, why is AA's DBP vote wolfy?

As I've said, his vote was opportunistically timed to take Witch (you) out of KitB, despite previous assertions that he wanted to give DBP a day, and despite maintaining a townread for majority of the day, and despite defending DBP in EoD all the way until sheeping sunfan at the very last minute.

The very same sunfan that he had just also given a day, despite noting his wariness. The very same sunfan who he's now saying he sheeped because he didn't think either sunfan or roundbox were wolves. How did wariness go to such faithful trust in a matter of minutes?

I don't buy it at all.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

There's probably a wolf in Jade/AA btw and it's probably W/T based on voting and AA leaving thread.

Do some maths.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

There's probably a wolf in Jade/AA btw and it's probably W/T based on voting and AA leaving thread.

Do some maths.

[TWG Jade Harley]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

As I've said, his vote was opportunistically timed to take Witch (you) out of KitB, despite previous assertions that he wanted to give DBP a day, and despite maintaining a townread for majority of the day, and despite defending DBP in EoD all the way until sheeping sunfan at the very last minute.

The very same sunfan that he had just also given a day, despite noting his wariness. The very same sunfan who he's now saying he sheeped because he didn't think either sunfan or roundbox were wolves. How did wariness go to such faithful trust in a matter of minutes?

I don't buy it at all.

this exact post points out why its important to push people for progressions in their reads

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Ty derp-based forum for allowing me to post 2 times in one click.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

one more point about this before I sleep for real

he feels very calm, and given yesterday's EOD I don't think any town would be calm, even given that he was supposedly satisfied with his vote. with all the rushing around of votes and wagons it was highly likely that someone other than DBP would be lynched, which I think would get roundbox to show some fire and try to pull people to the DBP wagon. this just seems like a wolf who's ok with what's happening because most likely a town is getting lynched

Hm. I'd actually like this a lot if you hadn't just said you sheeped roundbox because you were confident he was town during EoD.
Did your expectation of roundbox change overnight, or is it something else that's caused your read to change so drastically?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Guys I'm kind of triggered from something else and it's hard to get my head in the game but I will post some thoughts before going to the waffle house to cool down



First and foremost are we not calling SunFan out for taking his townread and starting a wagon on it just to realize that yep, if I take someone who I've and several people have noted their towntell and lynch them they'll flip green? That's pretty disgusting yo. [TWGV]SunFan if you could give me a rundown of you're line of thinking for that now that it's in the past that'll be helpfull.


Second, it looks like Witch just slipped. She shouldn't have any strong ideas on how you'd NK a guy that as far he knew lost interest in the game and was posting "yep" "jontron.gif" and "bucko" posts for half the day. It should be clear that someone who knows him made that kill and for him to already sort of understand the reasoning behind it is suspicious as fuck. I want SunFan to get at me but Witch could easily be my vote today.

Third, the fact that [WIFOM=tinfoil] AA wasn't fearkilled again suggest that he probably has a wolf or two in his strong town leans again [/WIFOM]. I mean he could be a wolf but I fucking doubt it. Even that stupid vote for DPB is something he'd do as town (And yes AA it was stupid come fight me) and I no reason to think he's a wolf otherwise. Chances are he's just being wrong and an experience player here picked Charu because it's always gotta be either Charu or AA here for d0.


Raeko as Vigi kill was stupid and chances are you gave yourself up. Why did you not pick one of the wagons instead? fuck me man you're not helping town right now.

Freezin's gimmick is stupid and I've already said as much before. Emotionally I 100% agree with Haku on this, but I believe I'm already on the trail of wolves so I can't justify lynching someone over roleplay


And to be honest anyone voting for Freezin over roleplay with the exception of "I'm way too prideful in being wrong" Hakulyte should be fucking grilled. Maybe after I eat and calm down I'll look into doing just that. You only make such lynches if you have no other leads. Actually here's me reminding myself to look at those people's scumleans later

I'm super disappointed in Roundbox right now that was one of his weakest EoDs and normally if he has a weak EoD he bounces back strong at the start of the next day. That's yet to happen unless I somehow missed his post. Might happen, not holding my breath.

....I guess I need to try and ISO Charu later but fuck I dread ever having to ISO Charu's posts. I fully expect he was probably nightkill'd not so much for his reads but for his potential though.

[Witch of Certainty]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

As I've said, his vote was opportunistically timed to take Witch (you) out of KitB, despite previous assertions that he wanted to give DBP a day, and despite maintaining a townread for majority of the day, and despite defending DBP in EoD all the way until sheeping sunfan at the very last minute.

The very same sunfan that he had just also given a day, despite noting his wariness. The very same sunfan who he's now saying he sheeped because he didn't think either sunfan or roundbox were wolves. How did wariness go to such faithful trust in a matter of minutes?

I don't buy it at all.

Question: Would you say that town AA, when faced with a choice between a wagon he doesn't like and a wagon someone he trusts and is townreading doesn't like, gives up and sheeps the people he trusts and townreads?

He decided he liked sunfan more after the response to his reaction test vote, for what it's worth.