TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

nah, its a me problem
I don't really think its a result of the shitposting, I kinda don't wanna get into it, because its mostly irrelevant

this is going to come off really weak but this kinda strikes me as a towny thing to say

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Yo think a second.

I only have 2 wolf wins in this entire forum.

1. Turbo IV with Charu where I die early on and Charu wins alone.
2. Egregious Miscalculations where everyone is technically a serial killer instead of a wolf.

I fail miserably in every other wolf games.

It's very simple, I'm not "this" confident ever as a wolf.
It's not "omg you could do it", it's literally "it never happened".

...ISOSAVE... <-- for my own reference

This just screams wolf trying to build a meta defense for himself. I guess I could maybe see town Haku writing this, but I don't think that's likely.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Shado if I'm misremembering who voted who then fair enough but you where on him about that for awhile and the explanation that got you off him was pretty weak IMO. I don't know what you are going on about to be honest and I feel my point still stands


I have people wanting for me in OW so I'm out for real.

although this

does it tilt you, or just lean you in a direction of anger

is the best post in thread rn

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

this distinction between "reads" and "leans" is tilting me off the face of the earth

my opinion wasn't asked for on this but if it helps us move past this point, I agree with AA that there's no real meaningful difference between these terms

at least, not on this forum

[Prophylaxis]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I don't comprehend Haku's town read, especially not even at least slightly considering doubting it considering the opportunistic nature of that post about shado and I. It wasn't exactly not in the public know that I like shado this game. Our back and forth was actually one of the more heated ones because I'm an ass hole.

Explain to me why you're exactly scumreading Haku? I reread your posts on page 16 but all I saw was that you said that you voted Haku because it's "obvious" but, at the risk of sounding dumb, I don't really understand it.

i'm running into the age old problem of having too many townreads on d0

Who do you not want to lynch for Day 1 as opposed to who you /would/ lynch?

I feel you though, there are just so many people who are just vaguely town to me and I'm worried about being pocketed because the last game I had that was like this, two scum were in my "strong townreads" list and other townies needed to help me re-evaluate. (We ended up losing that game to a frickin Godfather that was cop-checked, but I'll save that for another time).

I like how you re-evaluated on Xel though? Feels non-agenda-y.

[Prophylaxis]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

WHY DOES THIS THREAD EXPLODE EVERY TIME I TRY TO CATCH UP ON IT

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

my opinion wasn't asked for on this but if it helps us move past this point, I agree with AA that there's no real meaningful difference between these terms

at least, not on this forum

I disagree. It may be recent, but there's a definite distinction.

Our reads lists since at least Egregious Miscalculations have featured

Townread
Townlean

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I disagree. It may be recent, but there's a definite distinction.

Our reads lists since at least Egregious Miscalculations have featured

Townread
Townlean

wait seriously????????? what did I miss

why does this exist?

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Charu, you mind quoting this message when you get back in thread? Thanks.

here u go

[Witch of Certainty]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I don't have a concrete case for why xel is scum outside of what I've told you:

he's meh this game to me (this is a meta read and you'll have to deal with it)
his focus on people townreading shado is very strange and I'm not really following how it comes from a town perspective. he had a post where he said something along the lines of "I don't see how anyone can be wolfreading shado besides mellon/raeko"

do I need more? I think it'd be nice, but no, I don't think I need more.

yes, I can convince people to scumread and lynch people without what you'd consider a case. literally one scummy post is all you need to get people lynched in some cases, it's really not that hard. I did it to MML as he just mentioned off of one post that I made and his one post response (or in this case, the lack of a response) and lynched him. see? not hard.

I'm not so stupid to just scumread someone because they straight up aren't there, but when people actively avoid questions that are generating the pressure then it's nagl and generally turns into a scumread, yes. town generally have an easier time answering questions than wolves do so it's more effective than you might think

So outside the quotes you say are trying to protect and disassociate himself from Shado, as I understand you're saying, essentially your read is "he's meh". Just like the read sunfan had, and withdrew, while you said you were keeping to it and referred to those quotes.
So those quotes are why you're voting him now, and your read of them is being challenged.
You can build a case off of one post and the lack of an appropiate response, I won't dispute that lol
My point is that I don't see even that much. And pending your defending your read of Xel, I might say you don't either.

I ackowledged that already.

[Witch of Certainty]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I find it concerning as well that you said that Xel/Charu are your strongest scumreads, but your vote isn't on either of them. Why is that?

what

[Prophylaxis]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

what

this was in response to Jade Harley, I just quoted your post to show that Jade was mostly asking questions that were already being asked/the answer was already in the thread.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Unpopular opinion:

I strongly believe there is a wolf in sunfan/AA. I thought it was sunfan, but AAs been kinda throwing me off since yesterday (yes, I did call him out on potentially deliberate misreadings even then).

I think it's unlikely that either of them get lynched before me, but I strongly encourage town to pursue them after my eventual demise.

[Witch of Certainty]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

which one is strongest aside from me, the lean on backpack or the lean on AA?

Backpack now, slightly, for the reason I gave, but AA is doing more now, so it can easily change. The Xel issue might hold that back however.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Unpopular opinion:

I strongly believe there is a wolf in sunfan/AA. I thought it was sunfan, but AAs been kinda throwing me off since yesterday (yes, I did call him out on potentially deliberate misreadings even then).

I think it's unlikely that either of them get lynched before me, but I strongly encourage town to pursue them after my eventual demise.

To specify: I don't think it's likely that they're wolves together based on earlier interactions that took place yesterday morning/afternoon (this is an estimate), but I could be wrong.