Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread
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Because it's not a nitpick, I actuallly think the two are different? Reads, both scum and town, are thoughts based on analysis/deduction with a solid case behind them, you're saying you have concrete proof towards a person's alignment. Leans are just leans, thoughts based on impressions/senses/gut feelings of townishness/scumminess without much concrete behind them.
that's your definition of what "scum read" means, what I'm asking is if you have any reads that are on the scum side, if I must be so clear
no, shoot me, go on
Okay, but why is he a wolf? And no, being "in his wolf range" is far from enough.
he's a wolf because he's not being towny and because he seems to care more about how shado is read than himself. keep in mind I'm not asking you to sheep me here, I'm asking you to show a grain of independent thought wrt to scumreads
In the first of his two posts he quoted, he explains (pretty well) how he sees a post of Shado's as townish and says he's not getting lynched anytime early on the way he's going. I don't see how that is strongly defending Shado himself as town, only saying that he has at least one good post and isn't likely to be lynched if he keeps it up.
lol
See above for why I say there's an actual difference.
Ah, I wish I had the energy and power to come up with things from nothing. Guess I'll just stick to my town leans then.
hahahahahaha gj twisting what I said, but if you can't come up with anything you find suspicious then again, nagl
I didn't say I'd be compelled to follow his lead.
what if! what if he's town, what if he's the vig, or the wolf RB? I don't know, all I know is that I feel like he's town and has reliable judgement, so I'm willing to follow what he thinks in the absence of having come up with anything I want to pursue myself. That is not saying "sunfan is town and I'll vote whoever he does without explanation!"
but that's the whole problem: you're essentially doubling someone else's vote while simultaneously not thinking for yourself
Pressure voting anyone besides a new player is silly, anyone with some experience can tell when not to be afraid of a vote. A mild suspicion doesn't justify a serious vote to me, deal with it. To me, it should, or at least that you have enough of a case on them that you're willing to declare your intent to see them lynched if it sticks. "Scummy enough" means you can bring a concrete case to show that they're scum.
you don't need a concrete case to think someone is scum. you also don't need a concrete case to get other people to think someone is scum. pressure voting can do wonders for players of all experience, because a pressure vote can easily turn into a more serious vote if not addressed.
that's your definition of what "scum read" means, what I'm asking is if you have any reads that are on the scum side, if I must be so clear
no, shoot me, go on
Okay, but why is he a wolf? And no, being "in his wolf range" is far from enough.
he's a wolf because he's not being towny and because he seems to care more about how shado is read than himself. keep in mind I'm not asking you to sheep me here, I'm asking you to show a grain of independent thought wrt to scumreads
In the first of his two posts he quoted, he explains (pretty well) how he sees a post of Shado's as townish and says he's not getting lynched anytime early on the way he's going. I don't see how that is strongly defending Shado himself as town, only saying that he has at least one good post and isn't likely to be lynched if he keeps it up.
lol
See above for why I say there's an actual difference.
Ah, I wish I had the energy and power to come up with things from nothing. Guess I'll just stick to my town leans then.
hahahahahaha gj twisting what I said, but if you can't come up with anything you find suspicious then again, nagl
I didn't say I'd be compelled to follow his lead.
what if! what if he's town, what if he's the vig, or the wolf RB? I don't know, all I know is that I feel like he's town and has reliable judgement, so I'm willing to follow what he thinks in the absence of having come up with anything I want to pursue myself. That is not saying "sunfan is town and I'll vote whoever he does without explanation!"
but that's the whole problem: you're essentially doubling someone else's vote while simultaneously not thinking for yourself
Pressure voting anyone besides a new player is silly, anyone with some experience can tell when not to be afraid of a vote. A mild suspicion doesn't justify a serious vote to me, deal with it. To me, it should, or at least that you have enough of a case on them that you're willing to declare your intent to see them lynched if it sticks. "Scummy enough" means you can bring a concrete case to show that they're scum.
you don't need a concrete case to think someone is scum. you also don't need a concrete case to get other people to think someone is scum. pressure voting can do wonders for players of all experience, because a pressure vote can easily turn into a more serious vote if not addressed.
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