TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I take it Xel's still your top scum?
Did his explanation as to the contradictions I pointed out change your perception of him at all?

it's not as damning as I thought it originally was so it helps, but I find his fixation on reading you town as very strange

Those are not scum reads, they're at most scum leans.

Also, the point you quoted as you placed your vote on Xel has been argued and retracted. I'll quote that vote post: Thoughts?

And:


You quote one post of Shado's and two of Xel's, one of the latter which doesn't have anything to do with what you claim it says? Does seem like they're both fixed on that, hm?

lol why is it necessary to nitpick between scum reads or scum leans

fine, do you have any people that you find even remotely scummy?

it doesn't matter that it's been retracted, for all I know he could be just making an explanation up. as it is I find it somewhat plausible, but I don't think he's anywhere near out of his wolf range with his content this game

both actually do have to do with it, the one where xel strongly asserts that shado is town is part of making sure they're not seen as w/w. it's even more interesting that he seems to care more about how shado is read than he himself is

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I don't see why you're being so stubborn and narrow-minded about this

you seem to want people to word things extremely precisely, and then if what people offer up doesn't exactly match said definition then you take issue with it

I never even considered that someone would have a problem with "scum reads" vs "scum leans", and imo those two aren't even different, one is a subset of the other (scum leans are a subset of scum reads, just on the weaker end of the spectrum)

I also don't appreciate how you're trying to discredit me with the "Does seem like they're both fixed on that, hm?" if you have energy to be snarky then surely you have energy to come up with more than a few town leans

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I don't like the fact that you're just hanging on sunfan's word for who to vote next

what if sunfan is a wolf? You don't even seem to be considering that possibility, and if you're town that's not good. even if you are strongly townreading someone, unless it's mechanical you always have to keep in mind the possibility that you're wrong, and at the very least it'd be less worrisome if you were to show some independent thought processes as to who you have suspicions of, rather than handing it 100% over to someone whose alignment you don't know if you're town. add to this the fact that sunfan is a strong player and it's even more concerning

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

one more thing: why do people have to be "scummy enough" to vote? why can't you just pressure vote people, or vote people you have a mild suspicion of? voting people doesn't mean they'll definitely be lynched, in fact it often doesn't even mean you're scumreading them. and what is "scummy enough" anyways?

[XelNya]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

it's not as damning as I thought it originally was so it helps, but I find his fixation on reading you town as very strange

uhg

[XelNya]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

getting up early is probably a waste of my time but, time to try and catch up I guess.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

aa's reads list is pretty much mine, but I have Xel in town and Lar back in null.
Probably wouldn't lynch Shado today and I agree with Jade looking a lot better after last night

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

aa's reads list is pretty much mine, but I have Xel in town and Lar back in null.
Probably wouldn't lynch Shado today and I agree with Jade looking a lot better after last night

why wouldn't you lynch shado today? I have my reason but I want to see if yours is the same

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

hot read: I think there's a wolf in witch/mellon, witch being far more likely

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I like how Xel got all the unvotes and I still have no clue what's he's doing.

whatever.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

these reads are a-ok I think

What the part where he openly sheeps you?
They might proove accurate reads but they ain't good reads friend.

I think(?) it makes sense for Witch to be sheeping me on Xel more as town, I think wolves don't usually want to tie themselves to a town, right?

What

What is pocketing then?

What logic this this? You know better then that.

Okay wow

Would it be the first time?

Lar is trending from null to town to me. His posts from last night seem well thought out and give reasoning on every player in his reads list. Also his questions to people seemed like they came from a natural read of the thread

Can you explain what I did differently to warrant a town read? As one of (if not the) first players to make a reads lists I don't think me continuing to do that in itself should change that much from your perspective.

I don't think wolves can't be aggressive, I think wolves don't provoke someone into a high-tension fight out of nowhere. Pushing a target, no, pushing someone that could put up a fight, no, but being sarcastic and actively pushing someone into making a scene with you at the center? Yes, I don't think wolves do that.

dem double negatives

I think with that assumption time will prove you wrong.

...Is it really hard to accept that you asked me for what posts I liked to support my having that thought and I provided those posts? Here, maybe this is what you're missing. Liking things is not some solid deductive process, it's saying I like the thoughts and approach I saw, which helps me give a town lean. Not an analysis, not necessarily agreeing, but I like them.



You responded to my full thoughts list (including on sunfan) soon after I posted it to start this discussion.

1-I do ask for posts, that's not what I was talking about though.

2-Holy shit that was the -full- thoughts on SunFan? Eww

Assuming NL's are avoided here, however, guide me again? @thesunfan

eewwwwwwww

No, nothing stands out to me as scummy enough to vote right now.

eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

There is not one single person in this group of 13 people who you think is possibly a wolf right now?

one more thing: why do people have to be "scummy enough" to vote? why can't you just pressure vote people, or vote people you have a mild suspicion of? voting people doesn't mean they'll definitely be lynched, in fact it often doesn't even mean you're scumreading them. and what is "scummy enough" anyways?

It honestly makes me believe they are pretty new to the game. When I started, I didn't really like making votes throughout the day for whatever reason and I've noticed newer players just tend not to.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Roundbooxxxxxxxxxx
I want your noootesss
I'm starting to fear that you're not heeere

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

it was basically what Charu said earlier for the most part; he's trying REALLY hard so I'm a lot more inclined to just say "ok fine geez"

part of it is because of his response to initial pressure where he went for the logical approach instead of the emotional approach, and he seems to be paying a lot of attention (noticing the thing Xel did that no one else did)

also, if he's a wolf, I know I will catch him, so he either has to kill me or attempt to outtalk me later, and I think he doesn't think he can outtalk me.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Witch trending downward for me

Xel's kind of still where he was at but I liked his response to me ok and it looks like he's trying to catch up now so who knows maybe he'll churn out some good stuff

getting up early is probably a waste of my time but, time to try and catch up I guess.

....but not with that attitude.

hot read: I think there's a wolf in witch/mellon, witch being far more likely

I can agree with this.

I like how Xel got all the unvotes and I still have no clue what's he's doing.

whatever.

#NotAllUnvotes

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

yeah I don't think we have the same reason(s) for not lynching Shado