TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

here's most of shado's progression on mellon, please read the spoiler

shado shades raeko here for being overly defensive, after she'd been called out by MML and then shado for not posting much



he then goes on to say that her victory in the SK game was largely due to being UTR, which understandably makes mellon mad



what's great about this part is that she hasn't posted anything since earlier up until here, and now it's coming to ultimatums already "post or get lynched", yet he's unwilling to even vote her for pressure?



and then after charu says that this is out of the blue, then he votes mellon? why do you have to say "until further notice", why didn't you vote her initially, and then



this post is just in here, continue to the next one please



why do you feel the need to justify your voting her in terms of what she said? I see nothing wrong with the pressure vote in and of itself, but the way in which you made it combined with your justification of it seems gross



now he wants haku to give something more specific for him townreading her, but she still hasn't posted anything more or content, so how is that a reasonable expectation?



more ultimatums here, it's not always black and white. I think shado is playing very level 1 here with respect to mellon and I know he's not a level 1 player

I think that this is a pretty excellent summary of how I feel about Shado this game, the 2nd to last line in particular. The last post of his you quoted feels the worst to me, specifically because I'm not really sure how he got to raeko being a wolf (which is a read I would be not too likely to agree with at that point and this point), specifically a wolf, that is tilted at how people are reading her.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I couldn't tell if you were joking or not when i was reading, that's all

I understand it's freezin now tho

yeah but, why would I be joking?
I guess it doesn't matter very much but I didn't quite understand

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I'm happy to nitpick this point a little about being flustered, more a pride thing because I just want to be right, I don't think this will further the thread but here goes

Definitions for fluster from here:

verb (used with object)
1.
to put into a state of agitated confusion:
His constant criticism flustered me.
2.
to excite and confuse with drink.
verb (used without object)
3.
to become agitatedly confused.
noun
4.
nervous excitement or confusion.

I don't think any of those describes me in that turbo or at any point during this game, there's no confusion here.

wait for it

oh if turbo V was where I was a wolf and pushed on you, then maybe I was flustered there yeah

but that's not what happened this game, and it definitely isn't besides your point, because once again irritated and flustered are not the same

Yeah the one where I reaction-tested you with Post Theory and you pretended that it was interesting and that it didn't bother you. I think it was Turbo V

I'll agree that since you made that post you don't seem flustered.

I think mellon's problem is that people are saying mellon only uses being UTR to win, which isn't true

being UTR may be part of her scum strategy, but you have to make decent enough posts to skate by while being UTR

I think this horse has been beat to death enough and we can just evaluate mellon on how she plays right now

How do you feel about her play now? She's still being defensive with a few dabs of general reads that don't really stick out to me.

She is posting more though so that's a positive

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

there's a difference between

1) substantiating your vote with evidence and describing how you arrived at a conclusion, and
2) positioning yourself with respect to that reasoning in order to gain strategic advantage

Shadow seems to be doing the latter

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

AA seems pretty good at least for today. He's been asking a lot of questions from multiple different players and he seems like the town AA I'd expect

what do you expect from wolf AA and how different is it from your town expectations in your opinion

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

yeah but, why would I be joking?
I guess it doesn't matter very much but I didn't quite understand

people had speculated about it before and I wasn't sure if you actually knew the answer or not

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

How do you feel about her play now? She's still being defensive with a few dabs of general reads that don't really stick out to me.

She is posting more though so that's a positive

I think her play right now is fairly null

in terms of reactions to people scumreading her, I would give it a slight town lean (slight being the key word), but I think her content so far has been like you said, fairly general and needs some work. general isn't a huge red flag here because she feels genuine enough, but specifics are good

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

also idgaf if people aren't into w/w analysis right now, I think shado/mellon are almost never w/w

similarly with mml/mellon, but to a lesser extent

[mellonxcollie]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

what do you expect from wolf AA and how different is it from your town expectations in your opinion

This is a really hard question for me to answer, I was actually thinking about this earlier. Honestly I don't really know. I seem to always be playing with AA when he is town, so it's easy for me to think "He's just like the last game we played!" which is obviously going to be one where he rolled town.

I guess right now it comes down to I haven't seen anything that is wolfy but I have connected the tone and style to how he plays when he is town. I also think he's an experienced enough player to fake his play style while he is a wolf though, so it's hard.

[DaBackpack]

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[MixMasterLar]

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Right now I'm leaning toward Shado, and not just because he is pushing me. It's because he is making a push way too early, way too aggressively and with much too flimsy reasoning. Yes I responded in an emotional manner but he just kept pushing, and pushing, rather than listening to me it seems. I think town players genuinely want to read people's responses and it didn't really seem like Shadow has been doing that, not only with me either.

Hey AA do you think this is sheeping or not?

Looks like mad sheeping to me.

And oh Lar I'm playing this game, I didn't mean I'm going to stop playing. I meant I'm not going to interact with you because you aren't a nice person and this is supposed to be a fun game

You're in the wrong subforum if you think people are gonna be 100% nice in here.

It's part of the game and means nothing once post-game happens. Accept it because that's how it is rather you like it or not.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Ok I promise I'm going to let Raeko post in peace for awhile and focus on some other shit in the meantime

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Your playstyle does disgust me. Don't take that as a personal attack because I don't mean it as such, but yeah it's garbage and I stand by it.

alright dude you need to chill

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Hey AA do you think this is sheeping or not?

Looks like mad sheeping to me.





You're in the wrong subforum if you think people are gonna be 100% nice in here.

It's part of the game and means nothing once post-game happens. Accept it because that's how it is rather you like it or not.

eh, I think at a certain point it's hard to have "new thoughts", it doesn't bother me too much atm

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

it's level one play in the sense that you're saying "oh mellon isn't posting/is UTR so she's a wolf"

it's not that simple, mellon is never a high volume poster so ???

Just saw this.
When did I say this?
Go ahead, find me one fucking post.

I'm going to do the opposite of caps here to not seem overtly emotional:

i said i was voting her to get her to come in and once she did i would likely unvote, i never said i thought she was a wolf as a result. i even outlined exactly what her options were in coming back to the thread and what my response would be like so you can take your level one bullshit and put it back where it came from.. i might have some ideas as to where to find the bull, if you'd like.