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  • Wafles
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2013
    • 1988

    #46
    Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

    I probably stopped playing and making new files around 3 or 4 months ago now. Not sure if I'll be back or not, but at the moment I just don't have much drive to improve at 4k anymore. I've been playing about an hour/day of osu standard, but thats about it.

    IMO - the reason this game doesn't stand a chance in this day and age is a total lack of online/community features built into the client. At this point its probably too late to start when osu already did it right. Forums don't do it anymore.

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    • Kyzentun
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2014
      • 125

      #47
      Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

      I don't know how many people play this game, but a fair number of people have dowloaded the last few releases.
      5.1.-2
      Linux: 37
      OS X: 42
      Windows: 430

      5.1.-1
      Linux: 334
      OS X: 382
      Windows: 3277

      5.0.11
      Linux: 588
      OS X: 1046
      Windows: 13908

      5.0.10
      Linux: 10443
      OS X: 11922
      Windows: 157086
      Raw data
      I believe the actual number of linux users is substantially higher than the download count, many probably build from source, which is not in this count.

      I play 2-3 hours per week on pad, and 6-10 on keyboard. I've gone for months without playing on pad though, and spent a couple years only playing 1-2 hours per month on pad. Overall, stepmania doesn't have the same "play until my feet hurt and I can barely walk, every day" draw that it had when I first started.
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      • leonid
        I am leonid
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Oct 2008
        • 8080

        #48
        Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

        speaking of osu what does osumania lack compared to stepmania? Is osu truly the nextgen stepmania with decent online ranking system?



        Proud member of Team No

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        • customstuff
          ♥C.S. + A.M.♥
          • Nov 2006
          • 4892

          #49
          Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

          Super Mario 64 speedrunning became my new thing, so I dropped rhythm games completely. However, I've recently picked up SM again due to seeing how well it went at AGDQ and I'm having a lot of fun with it, even though I only play a couple hours once in a while.

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          Placements are final, custom will not be moved to D6, just because he is good at jacks, and mediocre at just about every other FMO in the game.
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          welcome to D6

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          • ca25nada
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 384

            #50
            Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

            I hardly touch SM anymore over o!m and BMS since around a year ago.
            Only reason I start up SM now is just for theming.
            Minaciousgrace: i could train a cat to pass overjoy in 15 years
            Minaciousgrace: whether or not i could keep it alive for that long is another question

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            • blazziken
              FFR Player
              • Jul 2011
              • 170

              #51
              Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

              I still playing online and making files , Matra (Leo137) still do it too i have a group of friends who sometimes still playing online

              clik on the banner and "Welcome to the jumptrill world"


              PD: Moonsault blaze 2 is coming, just waiting us..

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              • Jousway
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2009
                • 867

                #52
                Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                Originally posted by Wafles
                IMO - the reason this game doesn't stand a chance in this day and age is a total lack of online/community features built into the client. At this point its probably too late to start when osu already did it right. Forums don't do it anymore.
                well gee who's fault is that
                community that wanted to stay on older versions forever
                Its not a bug its a FEATURE!



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                • hi19hi19
                  lol happy
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 12194

                  #53
                  Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                  Originally posted by Jousway
                  well gee who's fault is that
                  community that wanted to stay on older versions forever
                  If SM5 had integrated online scoreboards, minimal configuration required, live chat, social features such as a friends list, online multiplayer ready to play out of the box, spectator mode, and a curated centralized database of files, I can personally guarantee you 99% of people who were holding out on older versions would switch.
                  Obviously these things are possible because I literally just listed some of the features osu!mania has over SM.


                  I'd love to see them implemented!


                  *crickets*
                  Last edited by hi19hi19; 04-18-2016, 04:44 PM.


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                  • Hakulyte
                    the Haku
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 4697

                    #54
                    Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                    Originally posted by Jousway
                    well gee who's fault is that
                    community that wanted to stay on older versions forever
                    I can assure you that this is the complete opposite, but lots of things happened and none of them were explained in details. It's really just a matter of getting projects done.

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                    • benguino
                      Kawaii Desu Ne?
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 4190

                      #55
                      Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                      Hopefully activity will pick back up when the summer starts? A large portion of the community consists of students so hopefully many people will have a bit more free time.
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                      • Frank Munoz
                        Muein
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 2047

                        #56
                        Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                        add rng
                        everyone loves rng right?
                        Last edited by Frank Munoz; 04-18-2016, 06:12 PM.
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                        • MooMoo_Cowfreak
                          Abraxas Hydroplane
                          • May 2006
                          • 1746

                          #57
                          Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                          Originally posted by Frank Munoz
                          add rng
                          everyone loves rng right?
                          It worked for survival mode in Street Fighter V




                          Just fucking kidding that shit is abysmal
                          Originally posted by hi19hi19
                          dumps abstractly represent the song with arrows

                          post-dumps abstractly represent the existential nihilism that the song invokes in the listener with negative space, evoking the ephemeral nature of the mind - the journey of stepmania begins in hope yet soon becomes corroded into a dialectic of futility, leaving only a sense of dread and the unlikelihood of a new synthesis

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                          • Wafles
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1988

                            #58
                            Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                            Originally posted by Jousway
                            well gee who's fault is that
                            community that wanted to stay on older versions forever
                            Not sure if serious, but this would be pretty backwards if thats how you really felt, right?

                            Why do you think people stayed on old versions? Because of a lack of features that would make people want to upgrade. Just echoing what hi19 said - if you had given people community features people would be way more interested in upgrading.

                            Since I started playing the game zero effort has ever been made for online features. The effort that has been made has been some moderate effort (which died off recently) from the SMO team - but they're only doing what they can with a really weak text/command based online client. A couple themes have basic support for online features, but nothing that actually encourages online play.

                            And the thing is, its not even the current players that you should be caring that much about. Its new players - and attracting new players in 2010 or later requires a strong online client with good community features. The fact that its now well into 2016 and no effort has been made on this front is really unfortunate IMO. I saw a fair amount of flak on this from new players on r/stepmania shortly after the AGDQ showcase, and I know a lot of them gave up after seeing how archaic SMO was.


                            Look, if it wasn't the devs goal to make SM a popular, community driven VSRG, then so be it, totally their prerogative, because its not like they're getting paid for it. But you can't really expect to turn around and blame the community for it after the fact.

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                            • Kyzentun
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 125

                              #59
                              Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                              As one of the current devs, I don't have any personal desire for online mode. But if someone else wants to improve online mode, I'll help with the knowledge I have of other parts of the engine.
                              I don't know if people realize this, but I essentially earned my position by walking in and doing stuff. Nobody came to me to ask me to start working on stepmania. I saw stuff I wanted to fix and started doing it. So if you have some thing you think is important and the skills to carry it out, go right ahead and do it.
                              Stepmania Development in action:

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                              • Buta-san
                                FFR Player
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 492

                                #60
                                Re: How often does anyone play this game anymore?

                                ive always played for the music, if theres a new song i want to play i play it, if not made i make a chart and enjoy alone.
                                le stepman blog

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