TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[AragakiAyase]

oh

[DaBackpack]

tokzic [8:32 PM]
where did you get the idea

​[8:32]
that two people came out to dlgn

​[8:33]
wait a second

​[8:33]
xiz said that

​[8:34]
holy shit looking through old messages on slack is hard

​[8:34]
you just quoted it

​[8:34]
fffffffffffff

dabackpack [8:42 PM]
what

​[8:42]
oh

tokzic [8:43 PM]
that xiz/ayase exchange is what made me claim in the first place

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just trying to detective out where the idea that both hobos had claimed came from

​[8:43]
when none of them had

dabackpack [8:43 PM]
Oh wait

​[8:44]
I had the idea that dlgn was a PR, and was trying to find his partner

​[8:44]
but two people came to him, that's why he was adamant about rzr being a wolf

​[8:44]
but that is wrong

tokzic [8:45 PM]
gotcha gotcha

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dbp i have no idea how to read you

​[8:45]
pls help

​[8:46]
do you hate wolves

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do you want them to die

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[ ] y [ ] n

dabackpack [8:51 PM]
yes I want them to die

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[x] y

tokzic [8:52 PM]
that was a timed question

dabackpack [8:52 PM]
oh

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rip

tokzic [8:52 PM]
it took you way too long to decide that you want wolves to die

dabackpack [8:53 PM]
I was busy fucking up in the main thread

​[8:53]
things*

tokzic [8:53 PM]
no harm no foul


----- December 6th -----
tokzic [10:04 PM]
where did you hide last night

dabackpack [10:04 PM]
dino den

tokzic [10:05 PM]
THAT'S RIGHT

dabackpack [10:05 PM]
?

​[10:05]
dinos are fuckin awesome

tokzic [10:05 PM]
seering was on you haha

dabackpack [10:05 PM]
lmao

​[10:05]
thx

tokzic [10:07 PM]
alright i have a really hard time imagining red just chilling in an exhibit

​[10:08]
so i'm going to go ahead and say you're 90% town

entire convo with tokzic for reference

[DaBackpack]

that necessarily means that one of the above convos either has shit removed from it, added to it, or is entirely artificial

[DaBackpack]

dlgn [3:32 AM]
would be fun i think

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well, yeah, I know :stuck_out_tongue:

​[3:32]
but SHHHH!

botchi246 [3:32 AM]
Haha retard

dlgn [3:33 AM]
lol


botchi what is this referring to, at the top of your log? "would be fun I think"

[DaBackpack]

botchi246 [7:11 PM]
Wanna use bathroom?

dlgn [7:33 PM]
nah

botchi246 [7:34 PM]
Also who to booth

dlgn [7:34 PM]
i dunno

dlgn [9:45 PM]
you sly fox you

​[9:45]
you sly sly fox

​[9:47]
BOTCHI

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WHERE ARE YOU

dlgn [10:02 PM]
i hope you are the real hobo


----- Yesterday December 7th, 2015 -----
botchi246 [3:44 AM]
I just wonder how to evolve thwm faster

dlgn [3:44 AM]
u don't need to tho

​[3:45]
eventually you will only use things you get from the egg machine anyway


this progression is reaaaally weird

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

dlgn [3:32 AM]
would be fun i think

​[3:32]
well, yeah, I know :stuck_out_tongue:

​[3:32]
but SHHHH!

botchi246 [3:32 AM]
Haha retard

dlgn [3:33 AM]
lol


botchi what is this referring to, at the top of your log? "would be fun I think"

this is from the first day i believe, and i didnt know that i had so many messages with dlgn. here is the unabridged chat with dlgn from very beginning up to this point

dlgn [1:19 AM]
because I will try to put them in touch with each other

botchi246 [1:19 AM]
How would they contact each other

dlgn [1:19 AM]
if both claim to me

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I can tell each of them who the other is

botchi246 [1:19 AM]
Id be scared if i was an hg to tell anyone

dlgn [1:20 AM]
why?

​[1:20]
mafia can't do anything about it

botchi246 [1:21 AM]
Unless ur a mafia

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Then its rip

dlgn [1:21 AM]
is it?

​[1:21]
ok say I am mafia

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and you are a homeless guy

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and you claim to me

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what do I do?

​[1:21]
i can't kill you

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i can't really do anything to you

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idk if i can really manipulate you either

botchi246 [1:22 AM]
Why cant you do anything

dlgn [1:23 AM]
because the way the night kills work

​[1:23]
mafia pick a room but I can't really control what you do

​[1:23]
and the homeless guys have some funky thing where they can get out of certain rooms anyway

botchi246 [1:24 AM]
They survive one time if their room gets frozen

dlgn [1:25 AM]
yeah

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so like if i am mafia and want to kill you

​[1:25]
i could tell you to go to a certain room and then freeze it

​[1:25]
but would you continue to trust me?

​[1:25]
i think you would be likely to go to everybody else in the thread

​[1:25]
and just claim

botchi246 [1:26 AM]
Yah that

dlgn [1:26 AM]
and say that you've used up your one survival and are skeptical of me

botchi246 [1:26 AM]
I would be all over that

dlgn [1:26 AM]
so I think there is little value to doing what I am proposing as mafia

botchi246 [1:26 AM]
Im pretty much skeptical of everyone

dlgn [1:26 AM]
that's fine

botchi246 [1:28 AM]
Who do you think is hg

dlgn [1:28 AM]
no clue lol

​[1:29]
maybe you

​[1:29]
you seem to be trying to feel me out

​[1:29]
and you seem to know more about that role than anything else

​[1:29]
like you knew nothing about the movie stalker

​[1:29]
but you knew the thing about surviving one freeze about the homeless guy

​[1:29]
so, yeah, maybe you

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
Haha i read the op

dlgn [1:30 AM]
perhaps

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I was just enthralled by hg role

dlgn [1:30 AM]
fair enough

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I like it

​[1:30]
Its cool

botchi246 [2:18 AM]
Why you gotta post that

dlgn [2:22 AM]
i don't think the game is so heated :stuck_out_tongue:

botchi246 [2:24 AM]
Haha im just trying to launch it

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What do you think about backpack

dlgn [2:27 AM]
like him a lot!

botchi246 [2:28 AM]
I say townie 40?

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%

dlgn [2:28 AM]
mm more imo

botchi246 [2:28 AM]
Wolf 60%

dlgn [2:28 AM]
wow

​[2:28]
why?

botchi246 [2:28 AM]
I think he is trying to stay aloof

​[2:28]
No real substantial posts

​[2:28]
Already voted and renegged

dlgn [2:29 AM]
that's funny, i think rzr used the aloof thing about roundbox

​[2:29]
have you made any substantial posts?! :^)

botchi246 [2:29 AM]
Round is on the fence for me

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I guess not

​[2:29]
Haha

dlgn [2:29 AM]


botchi246 [2:29 AM]
I like this game though

dlgn [2:30 AM]
yeah I'm enjoying it so far

​[2:30]
more than I expected to

botchi246 [2:30 AM]
Ill try to stay alive as long as possible

​[2:30]
Given my role; )

dlgn [2:30 AM]
mafia have to survive to win!

botchi246 [2:31 AM]
True dat

dlgn [2:31 AM]
loool

botchi246 [2:32 AM]
I kinda wanna out myself

​[2:32]
But nooo

dlgn [2:32 AM]
are you really the HG?

botchi246 [2:32 AM]
Haha who knows

dlgn [2:32 AM]
i wouldn't say if I were you, yet

botchi246 [2:32 AM]
Cept me

dlgn [2:32 AM]
lol

botchi246 [2:33 AM]
Am i messing with you

dlgn [2:33 AM]
i mean i think you are either the HG or just plain town, but either way I think you are with me

​[2:33]
yes

​[2:33]
a bit

botchi246 [2:33 AM]
Haha good to know

dlgn [2:34 AM]
like honestly i find roles kinda boring in mafia, i'd totally play games without them

botchi246 [2:34 AM]
How can i be sure you are townie

dlgn [2:34 AM]
but if there are roles I like ones that are more utility roles or take some craftiness to play well

​[2:34]
you can't be

botchi246 [2:35 AM]
Make me sure

dlgn [2:35 AM]
but I really enjoy scumhunting setups (ones without cops that get perfect information from the mod)

​[2:35]
and I think it's pretty clear I am enjoying myself and really into this game

​[2:35]
think I've posted and been talking about the game all day

botchi246 [2:35 AM]
I know im enjoying it

​[2:35]
Thats clear

dlgn [2:35 AM]
haha

​[2:35]
and possibly alcohol enhanced?

botchi246 [2:36 AM]
Indeed

dlgn [2:36 AM]
lol

botchi246 [2:36 AM]
But still lol

​[2:36]
So fun

dlgn [2:36 AM]
yup

botchi246 [2:36 AM]
Even funner

​[2:36]
More fun

dlgn [2:36 AM]
i guess you could ask yourself

​[2:36]
what value do I get townreading you so early off of so little

botchi246 [2:36 AM]
Little

dlgn [2:36 AM]
i don't know you, I don't know if you are easy to pocket or not

​[2:36]
yeah

​[2:36]
I truly believe it

​[2:37]
i'm not really concerned about the pressure on me, I am not trying to buy your vote with my life on the line

​[2:37]
and I don't think it would be easy to flip on you without some really weird stuff going down

botchi246 [2:37 AM]
But what value can i place on you tgat you are town

dlgn [2:37 AM]
eh... idk, I think I am a good player

botchi246 [2:38 AM]
I think i am too given short status

dlgn [2:38 AM]
but I am expendable, I guess

​[2:38]
the stuff at night is kinda a guessing game

botchi246 [2:38 AM]
I dont like to think im expendable

dlgn [2:38 AM]
i mean you could really coordinate it but idk if I want to talk and deal with many people

​[2:38]
too risky

botchi246 [2:39 AM]
I wanna talk to everyone

dlgn [2:39 AM]
well I will defend myself very well

​[2:39]
and i doubt ill ever get lynched

​[2:39]
but if I die due to a bad guess at night it happens

botchi246 [2:39 AM]
Haha unless its first day

dlgn [2:39 AM]
and hopefully important people survive and solve the game

​[2:39]
yeah that would kinda suck

botchi246 [2:40 AM]
When you die can you still post and chat

dlgn [2:40 AM]
hmm i doubt it

botchi246 [2:40 AM]
What do you know from your experience

dlgn [2:40 AM]
almost certainly no, you can't

​[2:40]
because some people get spoilers

botchi246 [2:41 AM]
I get that

dlgn [2:41 AM]
and the general idea is when you die that takes you away from being able to help solve the game

​[2:41]
so no

​[2:41]
it's less important here with the way people die at nigh

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night*

​[2:41]
but dying is dying as far as the game is concerned, and I don't think you can contribute after that happens

​[2:41]
in general if you have questions i'd just ask the mod directly

botchi246 [2:42 AM]
I like your contributions

dlgn [2:42 AM]
ty

botchi246 [2:42 AM]
Favorite by far

dlgn [2:42 AM]
haha cool

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pocket successful!!

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botchi246 [2:42 AM]
Hahaha

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Im townie

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Im wolf

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Im hg

dlgn [2:42 AM]
lol

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ur troll

​[2:42]
it was easy to tell

botchi246 [2:42 AM]
Hahaha the dirtiest

dlgn [2:43 AM]
i mean I figured that out damn fast

botchi246 [2:43 AM]
I think ill say that in main chat

dlgn [2:43 AM]
I think I am reading the game well, lol

botchi246 [2:43 AM]
I like oot

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C

dlgn [2:43 AM]
yeah it's fun

botchi246 [2:44 AM]
Haha you still really dont know who i am

dlgn [2:44 AM]
nope

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do you know me?

​[2:44]
or do you mean your role?

botchi246 [2:45 AM]
Both lol

dlgn [2:45 AM]
really??

botchi246 [2:45 AM]
Do you even play ffr

dlgn [2:45 AM]
nope

botchi246 [2:45 AM]
Dang

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You should

​[2:45]
So fun

dlgn [2:45 AM]
idk what it is haha

botchi246 [2:46 AM]
Come on really

dlgn [2:46 AM]
lol

​[2:46]
now I get to be the newbie

​[2:46]
WATS A FFR?

botchi246 [2:46 AM]
You could play rzr

dlgn [2:46 AM]
SOUNDS SO FUN!

botchi246 [2:46 AM]
He sucks too

dlgn [2:46 AM]
lmaooo

botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Im pretty simple once you get to know me

dlgn [2:47 AM]
i mean it kinda sounds like dance dance revolution

botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Rzr joined ffr for tqg

dlgn [2:47 AM]
but idk what it is

botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Tqg

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Twg

dlgn [2:47 AM]
yeah i did too I guess

botchi246 [2:47 AM]
Its ddr for fingers basically

dlgn [2:47 AM]
ah ok

​[2:47]
i play magic piano lol

​[2:48]
that's kinda similar?

botchi246 [2:48 AM]
Yah

​[2:48]
Im a beast on that game

dlgn [2:48 AM]
oh nice

botchi246 [2:48 AM]
Do you play an actual instruments

dlgn [2:48 AM]
no

​[2:48]
:disappointed:

​[2:48]
i wish i did

botchi246 [2:48 AM]
I play piano and druma

​[2:48]
S

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And the wolfy pan flute

dlgn [2:49 AM]
nice!! i'm jealous

​[2:49]
i played viola for 1 year lol

​[2:49]
wish i could play piano and guitar

​[2:50]
moonlight sonata III. presto agitato is my fav song to play on magic piano

​[2:50]
have 16512 score on that

​[2:50]
but I doubt that is very good

botchi246 [2:52 AM]
Its good. I havent played that game in so long

​[2:52]
You should get cytus on phone

​[2:52]
Its great rhythm game

dlgn [2:58 AM]
ill look into it, thanks!

botchi246 [2:59 AM]
Im starting some fire with xel

dlgn [2:59 AM]
ya i just saw lol

botchi246 [2:59 AM]
And xiz hopefully

​[2:59]
So excited

dlgn [2:59 AM]
i found that post funny, actually, lol

botchi246 [2:59 AM]
Tryna get aome heat going

​[3:00]
Result of inebriation most likely

dlgn [3:00 AM]
ima pretend like you're my homeless guy partner

​[3:00]
i'll drink more tmw and have fun with it :simple_smile:

botchi246 [3:15 AM]
Haha ok

​[3:15]
Are you drinking tonight

dlgn [3:16 AM]
had a glass of wine and a beer but otherwise no

botchi246 [3:17 AM]
How old are you

dlgn [3:18 AM]
27

​[3:18]
u?

botchi246 [3:18 AM]
26

dlgn [3:18 AM]
where from?

botchi246 [3:18 AM]
Im in florida now but im from denver

dlgn [3:19 AM]
ew florida so wolfy

botchi246 [3:19 AM]
Hahah

​[3:19]
No wolvea in fl i assure you

dlgn [3:19 AM]
my ex lives in florida lol, it's nice tho

​[3:20]
i've spent like 15 years in atlanta

​[3:20]
so not too far

botchi246 [3:20 AM]
Eww atlanta

​[3:20]
So falcony

dlgn [3:20 AM]
yup haha

botchi246 [3:21 AM]
Denver is the shizz

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Legal reefer

dlgn [3:21 AM]
i bet

​[3:22]
ya that and skiing / snowboarding like omg

​[3:22]
and red rocks omg

botchi246 [3:23 AM]
Haha yah been to red rocks

​[3:23]
Multiple times

dlgn [3:23 AM]
oh wow who'd you see?

​[3:23]
i def want to see a show there in my life

botchi246 [3:23 AM]
I saw arctic monkeys

​[3:24]
And deamau5

dlgn [3:24 AM]
nice!

botchi246 [3:24 AM]
Deadmau5

​[3:24]
Im an avid skier /snowboarder

dlgn [3:24 AM]
even better

botchi246 [3:24 AM]
But i just had acl surgery so this year is afk for me

dlgn [3:24 AM]
i enjoy it but am no good

​[3:24]
aww fuck

​[3:24]
no fun

botchi246 [3:25 AM]
Im pretty salty about it

dlgn [3:25 AM]
i bet, injure it on the slopes or something random?

botchi246 [3:26 AM]
Was playing basketball in paris lol

dlgn [3:26 AM]
lol...

botchi246 [3:26 AM]
Shame

dlgn [3:26 AM]
yeah hope it heals up well

botchi246 [3:27 AM]
Its going well

​[3:27]
Im walking after 3 days

​[3:27]
So good so far

dlgn [3:27 AM]
nice nice

botchi246 [3:28 AM]
Where you from

dlgn [3:28 AM]
in philly now

botchi246 [3:28 AM]
Oh geez cold af

dlgn [3:28 AM]
lived all over the place, seattle, atlanta, richmond mostly

​[3:29]
atlanta the most

​[3:29]
ur from CO how is philly cold lol

botchi246 [3:29 AM]
I lived in raleigh denver and tampa

dlgn [3:29 AM]
all solid places

​[3:29]
your fav denver?

botchi246 [3:30 AM]
I love Seattle though

​[3:30]
Denver fav by far

dlgn [3:30 AM]
yeah i loved seattle too, lived there from 2 years old to 8

​[3:30]
never been back since moving away :disappointed:

botchi246 [3:31 AM]
Offically wolf

dlgn [3:31 AM]
lol

botchi246 [3:31 AM]
XD

dlgn [3:32 AM]
i wish i could play a wolf game like this

botchi246 [3:32 AM]
You are playing it

dlgn [3:32 AM]
would be fun i think

​[3:32]
well, yeah, I know :stuck_out_tongue:

​[3:32]
but SHHHH!

botchi246 [3:32 AM]
Haha retard

[botchi246]

​[9:47]
WHERE ARE YOU

dlgn [10:02 PM]
i hope you are the real hobo


----- Yesterday December 7th, 2015 -----
botchi246 [3:44 AM]
I just wonder how to evolve thwm faster

dlgn [3:44 AM]
u don't need to tho





the first two bold lines was when i was absent for a bit

the bold stuff at the end is PAD talk. there was a lull where we were talking PAD in mainchat

[botchi246]

these are the only reads im close to 100% on

scum: tokzic(110%)
town: rzr, dlgn, dbp

[botchi246]

here is my chat with xelnya tonight, or this morning rather

botchi246 [3:01 AM]
sup xel

xelnya [3:01 AM]
... How the shit did you know I was on

​[3:01]
lol

botchi246 [3:01 AM]
cuz green bubble on right

​[3:02]
and im outside your window

​[3:02]
watching

​[3:02]
waiting

xelnya [3:02 AM]
... You don't even know where I live

​[3:02]
PLUS JOKE IS ON YOU. I'M IN THE WINDOW OF YOUR HAUS

botchi246 [3:02 AM]
prolly canada or something

xelnya [3:02 AM]
Canada is like a 6 hour drive from me apperantly

​[3:02]
At least that's what T-force told me

​[3:02]
when he came and visted once

​[3:03]
Anyways, 'sup

botchi246 [3:03 AM]
washington then

xelnya [3:03 AM]
Actually yes.

botchi246 [3:03 AM]
nice

​[3:03]
it was either that or new york

xelnya [3:03 AM]
DAMN I COULD HAVE BEEN A NEW YORKER

botchi246 [3:03 AM]
thoughts on today?

xelnya [3:04 AM]
tbh

botchi246 [3:04 AM]
dat slim tokzic screwed me

​[3:04]
slime*

xelnya [3:04 AM]
I think xiz getting lynched should happen out of principle

​[3:04]
because clearing you just for being new is sloppy as fuck

​[3:04]
and xizu is not a sloppy player

botchi246 [3:04 AM]
haha

​[3:04]
i guess you would know

xelnya [3:05 AM]
However him being an actual hobo

​[3:05]
only confuses me more

botchi246 [3:05 AM]
yah dat sucks

​[3:05]
we lost a pr

xelnya [3:05 AM]
because Xiz should have played the whole game differently

​[3:05]
and yes

​[3:05]
the loss of that PR is super bad

botchi246 [3:06 AM]
what to do what to do

xelnya [3:06 AM]
Thing is first off the seer booth thing to what I skimmed has a plan, that's good

botchi246 [3:07 AM]
what that plan wth AA choosing?

xelnya [3:07 AM]
More like the arrangement he already made from what I saw?

botchi246 [3:08 AM]
i feel bad for xiz anyways

​[3:08]
tokzic had me in his pocket so deep i was pickin out lint

​[3:08]
shame shame

xelnya [3:08 AM]
I feel bad it was a mislynch but tbh if I didn't work today I'd have spent all day drilling his head to stop just auto clearing you for such simple reasons

​[3:09]
Like do i disagree or agree with his conclusion was irrelevant

​[3:09]
the issue is the reasoning was just bad

​[3:09]
If you had played say

​[3:09]
3 games with us before this one

botchi246 [3:09 AM]
you mean, not enough to back it up?

xelnya [3:09 AM]
and played it the exact same

​[3:09]
You'd have been lynched early I think

botchi246 [3:09 AM]
why is that

xelnya [3:10 AM]
I wanna explain this in a weird way so forgive me but

botchi246 [3:10 AM]
np

xelnya [3:10 AM]
Aside from getting pocketed by Tokzic this game what exactly have you been doing

​[3:11]
Because your forum presense is about as lack luster as my own.

botchi246 [3:11 AM]
not much ill be honest

​[3:11]
i been trying to keep up though

xelnya [3:11 AM]
Which makes me both a hypocrite and makes this somewhat Ironic

botchi246 [3:11 AM]
im gonna try and have a more active role now

xelnya [3:11 AM]
You're gonna need to

botchi246 [3:11 AM]
cuz if i dont, its gonna be bad potatoes

​[3:12]
i need to start doing some research

​[3:12]
if i had some background with yall it would help, but since i dont... i gotta work with what i am given

xelnya [3:13 AM]
The trick to playing with people you've not played with if you asked me

​[3:13]
is to not make assumptions

​[3:13]
Don't try to use any spoon fed meta

​[3:13]
Which is why

​[3:13]
I wanted to grill xizu

​[3:13]
so fuckin' hard

​[3:13]
and why I asked charu why

botchi246 [3:13 AM]
really, i just been backpacking on people i like as town and going with their thoughts

​[3:14]
which prolly doesnt sound too good

xelnya [3:14 AM]
So the first thing I think for you

​[3:14]
Is to anihilate all thoughts you have on everyone in the game atm

​[3:14]
And start off with a null on everyone

botchi246 [3:14 AM]
start fresh

​[3:14]
except for tokzic cuz now i know

xelnya [3:14 AM]
Then reread their thread posts and whatever convos you've had with them

botchi246 [3:15 AM]
do you think tokzic is bad

​[3:15]
i mean i get the feeling you do

​[3:15]
ughh i dont wanna go back through that wholeee thread

​[3:15]
like 70 pages

​[3:15]
but i know i need to

xelnya [3:16 AM]
"i mean i get the feeling you do"

I kinda have to state for the moment that I haven't told you which way I lean at all

​[3:16]
In fact you'd probably have to assume you're kinda the one I don't trust based on me wanting to grill xiz and charu

​[3:16]
At least I think

​[3:16]
However I'm in a toss up

​[3:16]
I don't know you

botchi246 [3:16 AM]
well actually im at the point where i dont think anyone really trusts me

xelnya [3:16 AM]
you and I have not talked much

​[3:16]
Your presense in game is rather much lacking

botchi246 [3:17 AM]
once again thats mutual though

xelnya [3:17 AM]
So I don't have anything to sell me either way

​[3:17]
That's true

​[3:17]
However is this convo starting to be a good step in the right direction

​[3:17]
I think so

botchi246 [3:17 AM]
i am excited to see how heated this game gets though

xelnya [3:17 AM]
Because you seem to be honest enough

botchi246 [3:17 AM]
cuz i was already thinking this wasnt the game for me

xelnya [3:17 AM]
Like tbh I don't think you'd lie to me atm

botchi246 [3:18 AM]
until today really

xelnya [3:18 AM]
because you seem scared of things going backwards

​[3:18]
and them trusting tokzic over you

botchi246 [3:18 AM]
fricken tokzic

xelnya [3:18 AM]
I think that's phrased poorly on my end

​[3:18]
But you get where I'm going I suppose.

botchi246 [3:18 AM]
yah i get it

​[3:18]
its crazy how everyone picks apart every little thing

​[3:18]
where the words are

xelnya [3:18 AM]
That's how this game woprks

​[3:19]
works*

botchi246 [3:19 AM]
what emotion behind them

xelnya [3:19 AM]
The thing to really understand is

​[3:19]
is someone calls you a shit fucking bitch

​[3:19]
they don't genuinely mean it

​[3:19]
XD

​[3:19]
Well

botchi246 [3:19 AM]
lol shit fucking bitch

xelnya [3:19 AM]
sometimes I mean it

​[3:19]
To certain people

​[3:19]
I'll be the first to admit I'm rather blunt

​[3:19]
But I guess another thing to note is

botchi246 [3:20 AM]
im sure there are many secondsd there

xelnya [3:20 AM]
where did you start before the tokzic lynch with your town and scum pile

botchi246 [3:20 AM]
ok

​[3:20]
scum: xiz, aa cuz he was backing xiz,

xelnya [3:20 AM]
Ok

​[3:20]
stop for a sec

botchi246 [3:21 AM]
ok

xelnya [3:21 AM]
With AA, do you still think that

​[3:21]
after the flip now

botchi246 [3:21 AM]
well now that xiz is lynched

​[3:21]
and aa had changed his vote to tokzic

​[3:21]
i would say he leans towards town

​[3:21]
but he changed his vote at the last minute last time

​[3:21]
kinda rings in my ear

​[3:22]
right now he is in limbo for me

​[3:22]
until i get some more info

xelnya [3:22 AM]
That's a good start to work from, you don't like AA based on things you saw yourself

botchi246 [3:23 AM]
and ill be sure to bring that up to him tomorrow when i see him on

​[3:23]
and now he is sort of the leader

xelnya [3:23 AM]
I think a one on one would be good works

botchi246 [3:23 AM]
which could be dangerous

​[3:23]
cuz tokzic was leader last round

​[3:23]
and we all saw what happened

​[3:24]
as for town

​[3:24]
dlgn is still town for me and rzr

​[3:24]
but i think i need to throw that out

xelnya [3:24 AM]
See rzr has kinda fallen a little because didn't he vote you this phase or is my memory fuzzy

botchi246 [3:25 AM]
cuz those are the two people who ihave talked to about things other than twg

​[3:25]
he voted me both phases

​[3:25]
to get me to speak up

​[3:25]
im not sure if he left it on me

​[3:25]
lemme check

​[3:26]
he switched to storn

​[3:26]
and storn has been so quiet

xelnya [3:27 AM]
See I'd nit pick the quiet people

​[3:27]
But I am admittedly one of them

​[3:28]
unless you get me when I'm on lol

​[3:28]
then

​[3:28]
Ispam

botchi246 [3:28 AM]
he has been sorta active itt though

xelnya [3:28 AM]
so hard

botchi246 [3:28 AM]
charu is town to me

xelnya [3:28 AM]
Also

​[3:28]
I wanna iterate that

​[3:28]
I personally think V is the most town player in the game

​[3:29]
objectively

botchi246 [3:29 AM]
unless he and tokzic are really playing the game super hard

​[3:29]
well hold on, maybe charu is a wolf

​[3:29]
cuz they were going back and forth in thread right after lynch was announced

​[3:29]
could be orchestrated

xelnya [3:32 AM]
everything could be

​[3:32]
Shit chat logs are allowed to be faked

​[3:32]
as long as it's not in screen shot form

​[3:32]
I think?

​[3:32]
Let me go check that actually

​[3:32]
It's been months since I reread the rules

botchi246 [3:32 AM]
backpack was talking about that a bit itt

xelnya [3:32 AM]
even if they're years out of date

botchi246 [3:33 AM]
cuz he said either mine or tokzics was changed

xelnya [3:33 AM]
Wait

​[3:33]
link me that post again plz?

botchi246 [3:33 AM]
ok lemme find it

xelnya [3:33 AM]
ty

​[3:34]
I think I found it myself

botchi246 [3:34 AM]
post 1387

xelnya [3:34 AM]
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1394 this one yes?
FlashFlashRevolution Rhythm Game site forum. The perfect community for rhythm game and music lovers.

botchi246 [3:35 AM]
yah that

​[3:35]
mine was from the same page

xelnya [3:35 AM]
Yeah lol

botchi246 [3:35 AM]
good to read that page all together

xelnya [3:35 AM]
So "at least one of the posted logs has been fabricated or is entirely artificial"

​[3:35]
Means two things

​[3:35]
Wait

​[3:36]
three

​[3:36]
1. The log is just completely hand written by one person

​[3:36]
2. The log is just scum talking to each other as if they're town

​[3:36]
3. MIX THEM

​[3:36]
Any of those could be the case

botchi246 [3:36 AM]
well i admitted that i had not posted my whole log with dlgn

​[3:37]
because i didnt know that we had talked so much that the convo had been archived

​[3:37]
but i amended that and posted the archived log later in the thread

xelnya [3:38 AM]
See that's a good sign pending one thing

botchi246 [3:38 AM]
wait, were we supposed to do rooms tonight?

xelnya [3:38 AM]
do rooms?

botchi246 [3:38 AM]
cuz i didnt choose a room

xelnya [3:38 AM]
... Are you kidding me

​[3:38]
LIKE RLY

botchi246 [3:38 AM]
or is that by tomorrow night

xelnya [3:38 AM]
If you're talking about current night

botchi246 [3:38 AM]
after xiz was lynched

xelnya [3:39 AM]
then you need to choose by i think it's 10pm eastern time

botchi246 [3:39 AM]
was i supposed to choose a room

xelnya [3:39 AM]
Yes you need to choose a room for the night

​[3:39]
And let me be clear

​[3:39]
I do not wanna know what it is yet

botchi246 [3:39 AM]
fudge i dont even know what to choose

xelnya [3:39 AM]
I might ask later

​[3:39]
But for now don't tell me

botchi246 [3:40 AM]
so is that by 10pm est dec9

​[3:40]
or 8

xelnya [3:40 AM]
I think so gimmi a sec

​[3:40]
"24 hour night, ends in 24 hours because it's a 24 hour phase. 10:00 PM EST. on Wednesday"

​[3:40]
So yes

botchi246 [3:40 AM]
ok i have time

xelnya [3:40 AM]
Yeah

botchi246 [3:41 AM]
whoo geez

​[3:41]
got scared

xelnya [3:41 AM]
Well you could let rng-sama decide but I think that's bad

​[3:41]
You in this part need to know where you're hiding

​[3:41]
in fact in the rest the game I think

botchi246 [3:41 AM]
yah i need to keep up on that

xelnya [3:42 AM]
My only suggestion is to not take the bathroom

​[3:42]
And my reason is this

botchi246 [3:42 AM]
even though i have two lives

xelnya [3:42 AM]
your role does us no good

​[3:42]
if you hide in a bathroom

​[3:42]
and don't make an effort to stay alive

​[3:42]
I think

botchi246 [3:42 AM]
yah and if you read the convo with tokzic

​[3:42]
he steered me towards the bathroom

​[3:42]
and i did use it the first night

​[3:43]
ill just have to figure out where im staying later today

​[3:43]
its like 4am rip

xelnya [3:43 AM]
lol

​[3:44]
I normally go to bed around 4:30

​[3:44]
or 5:30

​[3:44]
depending my mood

botchi246 [3:44 AM]
i still have to drive home

​[3:44]
im at the office lol

xelnya [3:44 AM]
LOL WAT

​[3:44]
HAHAHAHAHA

botchi246 [3:44 AM]
only place where i can be on computer and play ffr and twg

xelnya [3:44 AM]
... Wait you get paid to play ffr during work hours

​[3:44]
I fuckin' hate you

botchi246 [3:44 AM]
maybe...

xelnya [3:44 AM]
XD

botchi246 [3:44 AM]
i am the controller

​[3:44]
i run dis bish

​[3:45]
i am boss of a small accounting firm

​[3:45]
i do what i want when i want

xelnya [3:45 AM]
Damn makes my job sound like fuckin' garbageeeeee

​[3:46]
because it issssssss

botchi246 [3:46 AM]
XD

​[3:46]
we all in different spots

​[3:46]
no matter

xelnya [3:46 AM]
I'm probably gonna come home tomorrow and scream at people

​[3:46]
because my day is gonna suuuuuuck

botchi246 [3:46 AM]
high stress?

​[3:46]
im gonna post this convo

​[3:47]
cool?

xelnya [3:47 AM]
I dunno why it wouldn't be

botchi246 [3:47 AM]
i was gonna do it anyways

xelnya [3:47 AM]
hehu

[dLGN]

botchi246 [1:28 AM]
Who do you think is hg

dlgn [1:28 AM]
no clue lol

​[1:29]
maybe you

​[1:29]
you seem to be trying to feel me out

​[1:29]
and you seem to know more about that role than anything else

​[1:29]
like you knew nothing about the movie stalker

​[1:29]
but you knew the thing about surviving one freeze about the homeless guy

​[1:29]
so, yeah, maybe you

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
Haha i read the op

dlgn [1:30 AM]
perhaps

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I was just enthralled by hg role

dlgn [1:30 AM]
fair enough

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I like it

​[1:30]
Its cool




MMMMMMM SO GOOD hahahaha

[XelNya]

Just in case worst case scenario: there's a huge windstorm going on here (the lightning has been pretty actually) so I may or may not lose power,

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Just in case worst case scenario: there's a huge windstorm going on here (the lightning has been pretty actually) so I may or may not lose power,

I don't see how that would effect your gameplay at all given your current contribution is nothing

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I don't see how that would effect your gameplay at all given your current contribution is nothing

[Vendetta21]

I'm drunk right now, ignore me

[Vendetta21]

Tokzic I am willing to be convinced by you still but I am not going to build the case against botchi so I expect you to be building this case for a few reasons:
-you wantonly ignored some shit I said and instead focused on throwing shade on me yesterday when I questioned you (don't even pretend to deny this) by focusing on minutae that I don't even think was relevant
-botchi seems clean because it would be extremely weird for a new player to claim to an already outed hobo
-botchi appears way more committed to creating a network of associations than you are.

So it's all on you to make a convincing case here, which you've already said in slack you're going to go hard today, so it doesn't even matter that I'm saying this I guess. But just want you to know if you don't provide a convincing case that compels me I'm going to do my absolute best to lunch you because I, at the moment, cannot even see from one sideways glance how you could even hope to call yourself town in even the most remote recesses of a wild horse preservation from your current behavior.

[rzr]

oh no the shit has truly hit the fan hasn't it. I guess I really should catch up now -- on to the lists!

[rzr]

I said it was a bad friggin idea to lynch between those 3 claims off the rip. I will analyze between botchi and tokzic, but I do not think we should lynch either at this time, we're giving the wolves our only defense. This is also why I said we would gain more knowledge from a tokzic lynch than a xiz lynch - and now look, at least for me I'm back to square one pretty much. I have about 15 pages ITT to read before I'll have a more informed opinion.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Likely, one of the sets has two fabricated convos

But if not, then either Charu or storn is an accomplice

I haven't been going to people. They come to me. Notice how none of you have received a private message from me. I'd show you the list of people I've messaged but I think that counts as posting a screens hot and is mod killable.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by storn42

I haven't been going to people. They come to me. Notice how none of you have received a private message from me. I'd show you the list of people I've messaged but I think that counts as posting a screens hot and is mod killable.

just copy and paste each log you have with each person

[Tokzic]

I was going to do all my reads in one post but I'm just going to do these one at a time to hopefully get some discussion going.

rzr

- Rzr feels like a likely botchi partner.

- Initially, I townread him strongly because he was very supportive of my claim and his on-boardness to kill Xiz, but in retrospect he seems almost too eager. Review my PMs with him to see where I'm coming from here.

- Someting is very not right about his consideration of botchi as the fakeclaim. First he proposes two possible wolf teams, one of which has Xiz in it, and one of which has BOTH me and botchi in it? Xiz asks him to explain, and he kind of does, but he doesn't address at all two of the most important points: why two wolves would want to fakeclaim, nor why a second real hobo would just sit idly by instead of piping up HEY GUYS THERE'S TWO WOLVES IN THESE FOUR PEOPLE!

- So then he seems to pretend it never happened and lists these possible hobo lynch orders, the only one of which that includes lynching botchi depends on lynching both real hobos first, and it is last in his list.

- ...so then he leaves the thread and doesn't appear again until after the phase is over.