TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by dLGN

did you explain your original idea? why did xiz changing his mind factor in?

and why did xiz change his mind?

because up until that point xiz was going to use the booth and me sending anyone would have just got both that person and xiz booted into main hall

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

xiz considers seering v but doesn't at all bring up the only thing that would possibly make it worthwhile, and then draws the entirely opposite conclusion that i came to right when i get into pointing it out he just instantly peaces

the fact that he was talking about xiz's thought process wrt using the security booth made me think he actually did send him. i was about to lose it.

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

because up until that point xiz was going to use the booth and me sending anyone would have just got both that person and xiz booted into main hall

i would have enjoyed this outcome and gladly volunteered to get booted into there with him and let the RNG gods decide which of us to kill, should it get frozen, lmao. a wolf teamkill would have been 10/10.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

hey roundbox



the fuck was this

I was pming with rzr at the time and I thought this was our chat and I was very confused

[dLGN]

[quote=storn42;4381884]angle shooting of dbp which cleared dlgn

and dbp was the one vote swapping at the same time as V

and i was already suspicious of dlgn, and dbp, and now V...

Originally Posted by storn42

People voting rzr:

• dlgn
• dbp
• rzr

People who defend dlgn:

• dlgn
• round
• dbp (at one point)

the only part of this i'm interested in is backpack.

storn do you not believe that the seering outcome precludes backpack from being a wolf? i do (as if I needed another reason to think he is lock clear - I gave everybody one repeatedly the first day, but whatever)

[Xiz]

hi guys

[Xiz]

yo should i bump what i said like a few pages ago because there was some good shit in there. And it seems like people are just skimming at this point.

[Xiz]

hey botchi you should talk because you know, you are my hobo buddy and all

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Xiz

yo should i bump what i said like a few pages ago because there was some good shit in there. And it seems like people are just skimming at this point.

yes please because I"m not sure what you're referring to

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Why is this acceptable

Can you name any time where a first time player made a fake claim like that d1 without knowledge of the game just a few days ago? Kinda a weak question :\

[AragakiAyase]

something has come up about the dbp seering that everyone should know

pretty much what tokzic did was prevent a seering from happening

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well wait wolves cant use it right?

aragakiayase [6:15 PM]
but didn't he seer dbp?

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no they can

xiz [6:15 PM]
or can they

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oh

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shit

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then that seering could be anything

aragakiayase [6:15 PM]
he seered dbp correctly but if he's a wolf that doesn't help

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the seering tells us nothing except that he atcually used the booth

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unless he lolguessed

xiz [6:15 PM]
yea

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i doubt he used it on a teammate

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because when tokzic flips wolf, people will go to dpb next out of instinct

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but thats usually what dumb town do

aragakiayase [6:16 PM]
wait why will people go to dbp next

xiz [6:16 PM]
because he was the seer target, and people might think he is a partner with tokzic getting a free ride

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pretty much it can go either way

aragakiayase [6:16 PM]
oh but

xiz [6:16 PM]
but people lynching dpb based on that logic is flawed and stupid

aragakiayase [6:16 PM]
the reason people were saying dbp would be clear

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actually no if toxzic flips scum dbp is clear

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UNLESS

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here are the two scenarios

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if toxzic is scum

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there's the movie stalker stuck in the movie theater

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and the wolf who closed the room

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so if dbp was actually in the dino den then there's no way he's wolf

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but if he's a wolf too

xiz [6:17 PM]
i was in the dd

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also

aragakiayase [6:17 PM]
then toxzic could easily have said he was in the dd

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when dbp was actually in the AC control room

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and no one can verify

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so yeah it doesn't help us

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and I'm going to post that because people are clearing dbp because of it

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xiz [6:17 PM]
good idea

[Xiz]

Can everyone read posts 1032 to 1046 again, please. Very important info there. Don't skim.

Also,

tokzic for obvious reasons

[dLGN]

that's not why I am clearing dbp, though

[dLGN]

xiz - why did you feel the need to soft to tokzic at first and not just claim outright to him? what purpose did softing serve? and then why did you feel the need to hardclaim when you did?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

that's not why I am clearing dbp, though

Other people were though

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

At this point, yeah. There are two effects which corroborate this, one is my confidence on xiz (I wouldn't be pushing to kill one of the three claims without a lot of confidence) and knowing that in order for xiz to claim he had to be prepared to stay outside the AC Room last night, which means DBP being seered in the Dino room clears him.

[Xiz]

For fucks sake dlgn you really REALLY need to read what 1032 to 1046.

I'll say it again here though...

Originally Posted by dLGN

xiz - why did you feel the need to soft to tokzic at first and not just claim outright to him? what purpose did softing serve?

Because, oh, i dont know... he could be lying? It was early in D1, like come on man. Why does anyone soft? What are magnets? Has science gone too far?!?

Originally Posted by dLGN

and then why did you feel the need to hardclaim when you did?

You fucking doughnut. At that time I was tied at a kitb and everyone said they were fine with that. I kept saying "its actually not a good idea guys... this is bad... stop..."

Also, check the logs between me and tokzic (remember this was when i thought he was real) where i kept pinging him to help defend me otherwise id need to publicly claim. I wasn't going to risk getting kitb as a blue d1.

Let me ask you something now dlgn. Is that something you would do?

[AragakiAyase]

also just to clarify kitbs are first come first serve in this game, so whoever hit 3 first between xiz/gradiant (I think it was them) at the time would just die, no 50/50

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Can you name any time where a first time player made a fake claim like that d1 without knowledge of the game just a few days ago? Kinda a weak question :\

Oh no, there may or may not be a precedent for an action taken by a random player for possibly their first game.

Oh its like literally everyone does everything the same way 100% of the time

I'm sorry I even said anything!

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Other people were though

you should really read the entire post where i cover all the contingencies you talked about in that chat and how they corroborate the DBP clear generally

[Vendetta21]

i mean, my thoughts were a little more thourough than that slack conversation and then you went and quoted the post where they were more thorough without apparently reading it?