TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

i'm not too concerned tbh, I am confident you will realize it sooner rather than later.

here, let's pretend this is a vanilla game of ww.

hi AA, do you have any reads so far? who in this game are you most familiar with / read particularly well?

there haven't been many concrete posts yet so most people are null, but...

charu made some semi-serious posts already instead of the normal gif/meme shitposting so that seems more town (now that I've said that he'll probably revert though)

you seem scummy because holy shit impression management

Originally Posted by dLGN

few people knew me in those games, either. still obvious d1 villager. resist all you want, it'll happen

not obvious

[Gradiant]

I'm going to get right to it - I have not seen how the previous games in this series went but I have a proposition that I think is always pro-village.

If and when you townread me, if you are a homeless guy, I suggest you message me on slack. Rather than the two homeless guys try to find each other and message everybody don't worry about finding each other - just find me. I will vet the claim to the best of my ability and then put the homeless guys in contact with each other in order to coordinate night actions and maximize our chances as village.

I thought a lot about whether I would make this offer if I happened to rand wolf and concluded that, quite frankly, I didn't have the balls to try to pull this off as one of 3 scum in the game. But, if you want to be safe and hold off until you are more sure I am village, that's fair. I know I am new around here but I can assure you I am town and doing this with the belief that it only helps increase village's chances of winning this game.

How can the rest of you trust me? In short, I have no more to offer in the way of clearing myself than anybody else. But so long as the homeless guys don't get picked off the first night or two of this game, you can probably begin to trust that I am not a wolf taking advantage knowing the village PRs identities and night strategy.
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[Gradiant]

ahhh, I fucked that up oops

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I'm going to get right to it - I have not seen how the previous games in this series went but I have a proposition that I think is always pro-village.

If and when you townread me, if you are a homeless guy, I suggest you message me on slack. Rather than the two homeless guys try to find each other and message everybody don't worry about finding each other - just find me. I will vet the claim to the best of my ability and then put the homeless guys in contact with each other in order to coordinate night actions and maximize our chances as village.

I thought a lot about whether I would make this offer if I happened to rand wolf and concluded that, quite frankly, I didn't have the balls to try to pull this off as one of 3 scum in the game. But, if you want to be safe and hold off until you are more sure I am village, that's fair. I know I am new around here but I can assure you I am town and doing this with the belief that it only helps increase village's chances of winning this game.

How can the rest of you trust me? In short, I have no more to offer in the way of clearing myself than anybody else. But so long as the homeless guys don't get picked off the first night or two of this game, you can probably begin to trust that I am not a wolf taking advantage knowing the village PRs identities and night strategy.

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jake is definitely town now guys

unvote

[Gradiant]

Thanks AA, I knew you would trust my obvious town play. Charu's town too

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

gradient have you played any of the games in this series before? what do you think about the setup? the strategy?

people playing previous games in the flame wars series is irrelevant
people playing previous games with each other is relevant but that's not mentioned

what people think about the setup/strategy is irrelevant, what they do with it is relevant but again there's none of that here

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by dLGN

How can the rest of you trust me? In short, I have no more to offer in the way of clearing myself than anybody else. But so long as the homeless guys don't get picked off the first night or two of this game, you can probably begin to trust that I am not a wolf taking advantage knowing the village PRs identities and night strategy.

this paragraph in particular makes it feel like you could be a wolf taking advantage of knowing the village prs identities and night strategy

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Charu

The point is, what is stopping a wolf from doing this?

"It's suicidal?"

Please... why is it suicidal for them? Why do you think wolves won't do this in private?

Since this is OOT, they will try this shit. They want to have one of us trust them. They want to be a part of the inevitable "alliance" that will no doubt happen.

So tell me

What is different in your mind?

Why do you think only a town would do this?

gladly:

I think doing it completely openly is towny. I think you are right in that a wolf would love to fool someone in the shadows and manipulate the game that way. I am hoping that the village realizes that I have nothing to hide and truly believe this is the easiest way for the homeless guys to find each other with the lowest risk of outing to an imposter.

for instance, say you are a homeless guy and have what you think is a homeless guy read on someone. you message them OOT and they confirm that yes, they are. you stop looking for other potential homeless guys and work on the game with this person, when you could quite possibly be incorrect, with the penalty being fairly high.

in my scenario, if 2 or 3 ( ) people claim homeless guy to me someone is potentially claiming wolf, which is terrible for them and great for town. but if only the correct number of people claim to me and I believe them, they can be paired quickly and more safely than if they had tried to find each other on their own.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

charu made some semi-serious posts already instead of the normal gif/meme shitposting so that seems more town (now that I've said that he'll probably revert though)

I gif AND meme post? Holy shit, revelation.

Golly, that's okay though, because I can easily post random Undertale stuff again, hee hee hee.

[Gradiant]

Why would at least 2 people believe you though?

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

dlgn for someone who's so confident he's coming across pure i'm getting more red vibes from you than green

if you're really human maybe you should dial back the cockiness a bit

no thanks

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by dLGN

I am hoping that the village realizes that I have nothing to hide and truly believe this is the easiest way for the homeless guys to find each other with the lowest risk of outing to an imposter.

lmfao

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

for instance, say you are a homeless guy and have what you think is a homeless guy read on someone. you message them OOT and they confirm that yes, they are. you stop looking for other potential homeless guys and work on the game with this person, when you could quite possibly be incorrect, with the penalty being fairly high.

you realize that by saying we should all trust you you are putting us in this exact scenario? do you see why I don't like it?

Originally Posted by Charu

I gif AND meme post? Holy shit, revelation.

Golly, that's okay though, because I can easily post random Undertale stuff again, hee hee hee.

hey buddy I was just giving a read on you

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Why would at least 2 people believe you though?

look if you don't understand at this point then don't worry about it. I think it is a strong strategy and hope that the relevant parties agree. if you want to be disagreeable without suggesting a better idea idgaf.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by dLGN

for instance, say you are a homeless guy and have what you think is a homeless guy read on someone. you message them OOT and they confirm that yes, they are. you stop looking for other potential homeless guys and work on the game with this person, when you could quite possibly be incorrect, with the penalty being fairly high.

Instead, you message a guy you have no idea you can trust yet and the penalty is still high, imagine that

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

you realize that by saying we should all trust you you are putting us in this exact scenario? do you see why I don't like it?



hey buddy I was just giving a read on you

yes, but it's better than putting trust in (potentially) several people until you find who you are looking for. in this case i'm telling you you can feel safe messaging me and that we proceed from a great position. if you are village hopefully you read me correctly and agree.

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Instead, you message a guy you have no idea you can trust yet and the penalty is still high, imagine that

fine, then let's all play as lone wolves and not take advantage of the OOT chat and other unique / interesting parts of this setup. super.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by dLGN

in this case i'm telling you you can feel safe messaging me and that we proceed from a great position.

if you don't understand that people aren't able to trust you right off the bat and that wolves can easily say this...

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by dLGN

fine, then let's all play as lone wolves and not take advantage of the OOT chat and other unique / interesting parts of this setup. super.

cancer

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

yes, but it's better than putting trust in (potentially) several people until you find who you are looking for. in this case i'm telling you you can feel safe messaging me and that we proceed from a great position. if you are village hopefully you read me correctly and agree.

you've convinced me, hold on a moment