Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 16]

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  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #136
    Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

    I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too.


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    • tosh
      O Derby, Where Art Thou?
      • Jul 2003
      • 1018

      #137
      Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too.
      Yeah quite a few song difficulties are being reworked atm.
      Last edited by tosh; 02-23-2015, 08:38 AM.

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      • sickufully
        Sir Krisk
        • Dec 2007
        • 930

        #138
        Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too.
        Actually, you're right, just realised that Within Life went from 66 to 65. Damn.

        Thanks for the reminder
        Last edited by sickufully; 02-23-2015, 08:41 AM.

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        • hi19hi19
          lol happy
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2005
          • 12194

          #139
          Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

          That said I can definitely confirm there's a chance the formula might be tweaked soon too, but I'd expect that to come with an announcement or at least a detailed post in this thread.
          There's been several areas identified where the accuracy of the ratings could be improved, and various developers have been addressing the formula further (read: making even more complicated/awesome)
          Although this of course comes with the caveat that the adjustments could wind up not working and nothing will change, so always remember that.


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          Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-23-2015, 10:06 AM.


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          • rushyrulz
            Digital Dancing!
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 12985

            #140
            Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

            it's like ur a friggen window wow


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            • ThunderFlip
              ={<>=The Hero of Time=>
              • Mar 2014
              • 598

              #141
              Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

              Originally posted by PrawnSkunk
              There is no way to reduce your rating, and any score with a lower AAA equivalent than your four best scores is ignored






              ...

              Kappa

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              • hi19hi19
                lol happy
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2005
                • 12194

                #142
                Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                Combo scoring


                Kappa


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                • Kanzas
                  Buh
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 1459

                  #143
                  Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                  my rank keeps raising too :/

                  dafuq




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                  • Deidara837
                    For a New Beginning
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1751

                    #144
                    Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                    lolol active sandbagging

                    _9th OT: D2 - 13th Place
                    10th OT: D5 - 45th Place
                    11th OT: D6 - 12th Place

                    EMG Rivalry | EMG Spreadsheet

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                    • Kanzas
                      Buh
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 1459

                      #145
                      Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]





                      Top 5
                      Pimp Slap - 7-0-0-1
                      party 4u "holy nite mix" v2 - 5-0-1-2
                      Fei Longer - AAA
                      HELLBEAT - 9-0-1-3
                      Flame Repellent - 5-0-0-0

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                      • PhantomPuppy
                        Washed and Irrelevant D7
                        • May 2012
                        • 1808

                        #146
                        Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                        Originally posted by ThunderFlip



                        ...

                        Kappa
                        well u do have to remember that the FFR Rank is compared to every other ranked player, so your rank can still lower if other people pass you up. how it works on any ranking system when put up against other players. i think what he meant by "your rank can't lower" is that you cant be put back into d4 if you made it into d5.

                        10th OT (D3): 13th
                        11th OT (D6): 11th
                        12th OT (D6): 6th
                        13th OT (D7): 31st
                        14th OT (D7): 25th
                        15th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL
                        16th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL


                        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                        you know what they say

                        under all the rust is really shiny...……… metal

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                        • hi19hi19
                          lol happy
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12194

                          #147
                          Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                          Your skill score can definitely drop.

                          Let's say your best score is 1-0-1-0 with 500 combo on Reality. It's your best score by far, but you just missed once in the middle.

                          Then you get an 8-3-1-4 score on Reality with 880 combo. Say you were doing well but utterly fucked up the end of the last stream. Obviously this is going to replace your old score because the combo is so much higher, but your skill score WILL drop because the PA is now trash. If you were just a few points above the D5 cutoff, this would bring your score right back down into D4 despite the fact you can obviously get 1-0-1-0 on Reality, meaning your score is now a much worse reflection of your real skill.

                          It's a problem with combo scoring; the tier point system had this issue too.
                          Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-24-2015, 12:17 PM.


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                          • TheSaxRunner05
                            The Doctor
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 6144

                            #148
                            Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                            Originally posted by ThunderFlip






                            ...

                            Kappa
                            Wrecked
                            You can lose TP this way too


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                            • ThunderFlip
                              ={<>=The Hero of Time=>
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 598

                              #149
                              Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              Your skill score can definitely drop.

                              Let's say your best score is 1-0-1-0 with 500 combo on Reality. It's your best score by far, but you just missed once in the middle.

                              Then you get an 8-3-1-4 score on Reality with 880 combo. Say you were doing well but utterly fucked up the end of the last stream. Obviously this is going to replace your old score because the combo is so much higher, but your skill score WILL drop because the PA is now trash. If you were just a few points above the D5 cutoff, this would bring your score right back down into D4 despite the fact you can obviously get 1-0-1-0 on Reality, meaning your score is now a much worse reflection of your real skill.

                              It's a problem with combo scoring; the tier point system had this issue too.
                              Yep, that is pretty much what happened to me, although thankfully it still has me placed as D5. I had 6810 skill level with that first Mirage Garden score as my #2. After getting that second score, it became my #7 score and my skill rating dropped to 6752, hence the rank drop. Too bad this is pretty much going to remain an issue until raw scoring is implemented.

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                              • Kanzas
                                Buh
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 1459

                                #150
                                Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

                                I think the New Leaderboard needs some fixing.

                                POST # 1000! Weee
                                Last edited by Kanzas; 02-24-2015, 01:46 PM.




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                                party 4u "holy nite mix" v2 - 5-0-1-2
                                Fei Longer - AAA
                                HELLBEAT - 9-0-1-3
                                Flame Repellent - 5-0-0-0

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