FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

[Ohaider]

I feel like anything beyond baroque and classical era music like romanticism and impressionism would just make the shittiest charts ever haha, but baroque and classical era are so bland these days

[Callipygian]

Originally Posted by Ohaider

I feel like anything beyond baroque and classical era music like romanticism and impressionism would just make the shittiest charts ever haha, but baroque and classical era are so bland these days

You clearly know absolutely nothing about classical music, or about scintill's stepmania files. A lot of Debussy's and Ravel's music (impressionism, although Debussy hated the term) is fast and rhythmical and would make for excellent charts. So would Liszt's transcendental etudes (Romanticism). 'Anything beyond' would also include expressionism, some of which would lend itself very well for hard charts (a lot of Prokofiev's piano music), or fast-paced and rhythmically complex pieces like Ginastera's piano sonatas, pieces by Bartók, or Boulez' second piano sonata, just to name a few examples.

[choof]

Originally Posted by Callipygian

You clearly know absolutely nothing about classical music, or about scintill's stepmania files. A lot of Debussy's and Ravel's music (impressionism, although Debussy hated the term) is fast and rhythmical and would make for excellent charts. So would Liszt's transcendental etudes (Romanticism). 'Anything beyond' would also include expressionism, some of which would lend itself very well for hard charts (a lot of Prokofiev's piano music), or fast-paced and rhythmically complex pieces like Ginastera's piano sonatas, pieces by Bartók, or Boulez' second piano sonata, just to name a few examples.

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[Ohaider]

Originally Posted by Callipygian

You clearly know absolutely nothing about classical music, or about scintill's stepmania files. A lot of Debussy's and Ravel's music (impressionism, although Debussy hated the term) is fast and rhythmical and would make for excellent charts. So would Liszt's transcendental etudes (Romanticism). 'Anything beyond' would also include expressionism, some of which would lend itself very well for hard charts (a lot of Prokofiev's piano music), or fast-paced and rhythmically complex pieces like Ginastera's piano sonatas, pieces by Bartók, or Boulez' second piano sonata, just to name a few examples.

that's so cool dude awesome story
I was speaking in terms of specifically orchestral symphony music, not piano virtuoso solos tho soz

if you want to step a rubato 14 minute romantic piece that plays a chord every 15 seconds, which most of them are, be my guest

edit
someone step some of these these would make awesome charts

[choof]

Originally Posted by Ohaider

I feel like anything beyond baroque and classical era music like romanticism and impressionism would just make the shittiest charts ever haha, but baroque and classical era are so bland these days

[Dark_Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by choof

[Callipygian]

Originally Posted by Dark_Chrysalis

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[Ohaider]

Originally Posted by choof

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[choof]

Originally Posted by Ohaider

https://soundcloud.com/asphyxzero

thank you for linking to my sound design soundcloud everyone go listen to my stuff please (it's not stepable)

ps clppng shared my ryoji ikeda mashup hype

[Lambdadelta]

Originally Posted by choof

thank you for linking to my sound design soundcloud everyone go listen to my stuff please (it's not stepable)

I thought one of them was semi stepable.

[choof]

Originally Posted by Lambdadelta

I thought one of them was semi stepable.

foolsday maybe
I'm compiling all of my asphyxzero music so I can release it on bandcamp, some of my older hardcore/breakcore stuff is pretty stepable

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Ohaider

I feel like anything beyond baroque and classical era music like romanticism and impressionism would just make the shittiest charts ever haha

You realize nearly all the interesting classical charts on FFR currently are from romantic era composers, right? I'll remind you that Chopin and Liszt are some of the defining composers of the romantic era.
And there are PLENTY of pieces from impressionist-era composers (even orchestral stuff) that would make for great simfiles if we had the proper permissions for a good recording.

I feel like you might need to um, revise that statement.

EDIT- before you're like "amg Bolero that's just one phrase repeated for 10 minutes how could it be a good stepfile" I actually have a file for it already that plays with color theory and layering to different instrument patterns and it's fun as fuck. I just don't have a good recording to sync it to

[Ohaider]

i never said complex music is totally absent during the romantic era lmfao

during the romantic era overall big epic ensemble music was normally defined by long drawn out emotional lengthiness as opposed to solo/chamber music

op is talking about apocalyptica shit, sounds like big epic ensemble to me

[Callipygian]

Originally Posted by Ohaider

i never said complex music is totally absent during the romantic era lmfao

during the romantic era overall big epic ensemble music was normally defined by long drawn out emotional lengthiness as opposed to solo/chamber music

op is talking about apocalyptica shit, sounds like big epic ensemble to me

Please just stop posting. The 'Romantic' orchestral music video you posted features romantic, not Romantic, music (with the single exception of Schubert, who is a but of a middle figure bridging the Classical and early Romantic era anyway). You also definitely did imply in previous posts that the complex, virtuoso Romantic music was relegated to (piano) solo and that the orchestral music of the time was not interesting to step. If you had meant to tell us that there is both drawn-out bad-to-step and virtuoso, complex, good-to-step Romantic music, then why did you post twice with the message that step artists shouldn't bother with music of that period?

Also, again, I get the feeling you know absolutely nothing at all about classical music. Although virtuoso passages were more often found in solo music, a big part of the orchestral repertoire has been written for soloist plus orchestra and contains plenty to work with for making good stepfiles. Purely symphonic music, especially in the late Romantic period, is often devilishly complex and contains both long drawn-out andantes and fast-paced scherzi and finales. There is something called cutting, which may be used by step artists to avoid having to step that 10 minute andante along with the scherzo, you know.

[Ohaider]

Originally Posted by Callipygian

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Blowing this so fucking out of proportion lmao calm down. Most complex music during romantic era was solo work. Most easy listening rhythmically basic shit during romantic era was large ensemble, especially compared to the preceding era. All I'm saying

if op said he was listening to popular contemporary solo pianists and wanting more of that, different story

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Ohaider

op is talking about apocalyptica shit, sounds like big epic ensemble to me

I was just using Apocalyptica as an example for these types of genres to start coming into FFR. What I really meant by that, is we need more strings and piano because it creates more diversity in not only the music available on FFR, but also the charts of said songs.

It's always been a picture in my head to see what an orchestrated song or even more classical pieces being brought up, in the sense that there would be willing stepartists to do such a task. Not only is this needed, but it will fill the void FFR has of these types of music, as well as hard enough files for higher divisions.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I was just using Apocalyptica as an example for these types of genres to start coming into FFR. What I really meant by that, is we need more strings and piano because it creates more diversity in not only the music available on FFR, but also the charts of said songs.

It's always been a picture in my head to see what an orchestrated song or even more classical pieces being brought up, in the sense that there would be willing stepartists to do such a task. Not only is this needed, but it will fill the void FFR has of these types of music, as well as hard enough files for higher divisions.

classical definitely wont fill the void for harder files haha. you'll have some hard songs here and there but definitely not as many as you think.

the hardest part of getting files for classical in game is the stepartist willingness to actually go through the trouble of syncing and charting(maybe even finding a good midi and making it into a decent sounding mp3 like sleeplessdragon did with la campanella)

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

classical definitely wont fill the void for harder files haha. you'll have some hard songs here and there but definitely not as many as you think.

the hardest part of getting files for classical in game is the stepartist willingness to actually go through the trouble of syncing and charting(maybe even finding a good midi and making it into a decent sounding mp3 like sleeplessdragon did with la campanella)

I fully understand this, as I am not a stepartist as of late, still the people who are willing to put their skills to the test to create such a file are more than happy to (A.K.A Xiz getting permission even though it's going back and forth).

Classical pieces alone won't warrant enough for harder files, or even the music itself where it needs to be in sync and charted properly, but it another discussion in the 10th Official Thread where it lead to these types of music being the best candidate for harder files as opposed to hard songs that fall into the category of "Buzz Noise Crap".