Keyboardsmash Phase I: Legacy Submissions Open

[bmah]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

Funny Shuffle:
There is an inconsistency at measure 26, where you have some 24ths, there is a pink note at the end of beat 1 that should have a jump/double, based on the way you step the same sounds around this part, and the same thing at measure 28 beat 3. I don't hear any sound differences in these spots so the steps should match what you have in the area. This is such a minor issue (but one that will have to be fixed), there is no need to resubmit this. Simply tell me which replacement notes you would like to put in these spots and I'll do it for you. The judges won't really see a change until I give them the first "beta release pack" unless they also want to change this themselves.

I checked measure 26 and the 24th jumps occur when there's either a juxtaposition of the scratch sounds + horns, or scratch sounds + bass drum. The place you mentioned only has scratches, hence one arrow there.
However, the horns follow along with the scratches at measure 28, so thanks for pointing it out.

Funny Shuffle (bmah) - This is groovy as hell and totally fun. Only have a few minor points to make: Don't let holds get in the way of people reading your chart. A lot of heavy hold usage starts to obscure some of the sections, making them hard to read. The rolls would be much nicer if they weren't constantly pushing to one direction. Make them rattle around a bit, switch it up. Fix that and you're good to go.

I'm going to guess you're referring to the section 2/3rds through the song where there's a crazy synth going. The synth has some legato/portamento to it, and I feel that it's important to acknowledge that through holds. However, I've edited out a few holds and shortened 24th holds where the synth is highly modulated.
The rolls in the first and last parts of the song I felt were fine, considering the sound of the 32nds aren't preferential to pitch, so I could put them in whatever direction felt good - in this case, a repetition of rolling ascent in one direction was the idea I had. However, I've changed a number of the patterns for your suggestion.

[choof]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

Dead Horse Mania

so when someone AA's all the files they can say they beat it

[Razor]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

hmm might send something

kinda lazy tho

also that better be Oriens full version

[Rebirth0]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

Doesn't matter, the file is in another pack so it won't be in this one

[LoliRam]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

can i make a shitfile and submit it pls

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

ya ofc

[ScylaX]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

I personally like the #basedSMpack title
Unpopular opinions

I'm starting to make good stuff to send to this pack, like good+actually fun files.
I'm hype

[stargroup100]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

That is completely not true. The seasons packs that GD put together, FFCP3 and 4, are all quality, awesome packs. The amount of work that their respective creators put into them, the amount of people submitting, the amount of people who got better with each iteration and submission show me that the ffr packs have a way more communal, fun and creative attitude that is totally lacking from the hardcore "quality" packs. I'd much rather be a part of an ffr pack than a dark chancellors pack

That's not the issue here. The problem is that FFR has had a pretty bad reputation in the first place, and on top of everything, the name itself is something that ultimately harms our community, as its homage reference to DDR creates mental connections that assume this game is somehow related to a pad dance game. I like the Dark Chancellors name because it's a demonstrably quality pack that has no naming convention associated with a pad game such as FFR or Stepmania, and anyone outside of the community wouldn't know of any elitism and would simply enjoy the pack for what it is, and that's what the name carries.

When I was working on KBO, some admin here offered to give blast and me full power to change anything we wanted about the game, add/remove/modify literally just about anything we wanted, and the main reason we rejected the offer was because we didn't like the name of the site, and that was something that absolutely could not change.

This doesn't mean I don't think FFR packs can't be quality (I've submitted one of my best works to one and reviewed that same pack positively), but the name certainly doesn't help when you're promoting the pack for certain audiences.

Honestly, the whole elitist vs. non-elitist fighting is kind of ridiculous. Both sides have valid points. We shouldn't be elitist in the sense that it cuts out parts of the community, but the "elitism" does promote and encourage people to learn and improve. Just as I've let go of the stigma the FFR name has, others should also let go of the stigma Dark Chancellors has. The fact that this pack is open to public submissions, even if it does take on that name, indicates that we're open to acknowledging and developing new talent. And even if it doesn't take on that name, it doesn't mean we're gonna lighten up on our judging and give you free inclusion in the pack just to be nice to you. Rather than split the community, we should be working together to help each other.

"Hardcore quality" might be a descriptor you would use for certain packs, but I see it either as quality control or simply a different style altogether. This isn't 2009, we don't expect super technical charts or super artistic charts from anyone. We expect a good balance between the two (or an exceptional case of either). Rather than blame the community stigma, work on improving your own craft and getting better. Because if you start to get good, I guarantee there are plenty of intelligent players here who will recognize you and you WILL get noticed.

[Kraezymann]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

No, I completely understand you, and rebirth now. As I said before, I just find it hard to believe there WAS a stigma attached to the name. It could be because I've never really been a part of any other community, or maybe I'm old fashioned, but the idea of FFR having such a poor reputation when it came to community simfiles just went over my head.

I didn't WANT to believe (nor did I really know) that my home Stepmania community had that sort of reputation, so the hackles went up when I was told that. I meant no disrespect to anyone, so I apologize to everyone esp. rebirth if I came off that way.

As for the whole elitism stuff, it's cool if people want to help us (re: beginner Stepmen like me) get better but when we get a two word reply or a sarcastic remark as a review, it doesn't help matters. As for me myself, I'd probably work on my files more and submit to other packs before bothering to submit to this one, you know what I mean?

Thank you for that reply though, I understand a bit more about the idea behind packs like this and the DC as a whole now

[stargroup100]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

No, I completely understand you, and rebirth now. As I said before, I just find it hard to believe there WAS a stigma attached to the name. It could be because I've never really been a part of any other community, or maybe I'm old fashioned, but the idea of FFR having such a poor reputation when it came to community simfiles just went over my head.

I didn't WANT to believe (nor did I really know) that my home Stepmania community had that sort of reputation, so the hackles went up when I was told that. I meant no disrespect to anyone, so I apologize to everyone esp. rebirth if I came off that way.

As for the whole elitism stuff, it's cool if people want to help us (re: beginner Stepmen like me) get better but when we get a two word reply or a sarcastic remark as a review, it doesn't help matters. As for me myself, I'd probably work on my files more and submit to other packs before bothering to submit to this one, you know what I mean?

Thank you for that reply though, I understand a bit more about the idea behind packs like this and the DC as a whole now

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. I also meant to direct that post to everyone, not just you, but I get where you're coming from now.

I also understand what you're talking about when you mention the two word reply/sarcastic remark. I don't like it either when judges do this, because I want packs to be a place where people are motivated enough to submit and then get serious live feedback.


Once again, I'd do more at the moment but I'm not home. When I get home I owe someone a full review and I need to judge the other charts too.

[Rebirth0]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

can i make a shitfile and submit it pls

hi malice?

also, stargroup, so loyal. chancellor 4 lyfe

[bmah]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

So going off of stargroup's arguments and points, where do we stand on the name of this pack? We're still thinking of a name right?

[blindreper1179]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

There's dark and light chancellor, so why not dim chancellor?

[Buta-san]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

Border of Chancellor's: The Rebirth

[Gundam-Dude]

Re: Dark Chancellor Pack 2 (ITS HAPPENING.GIF) Submissions Open

if you want to keep the chancellor thing, scrap the shade/tint/tone and go with just chancellors' pack or something. otherwise go way back to the original PPP3 and just allow already released files, rofl. I'm only saying this because 3 out of 4 files kommi sent are all released via pack or single release.