TWG Penalty Thread

[cedolad]

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She sold out her role while replacing out. Pretty much gave everyone a free human read. It broke the game for the Mafia and I.

[Xiz]

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I'll leave the decision up to Charu, since he did host that game.

[Charu]

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As far as I can see, her giving an emotional reaction to the prod cedo did was perfectly within bonds I would think as I'm assuming that's what cedo was trying to do in the first place.

I would imagine if she were a wolf and she faked that emotional display, I would give her MVP for life, dohoho.

However, now that I'm thinking about it, it could be a cheap thing to do. That being if you're a wolf and you purposely give an act to opt out of the game for the sake of looking super green.

Eeeeeeeeeh...

I'm indifferent and would say no, but if I really had to choose between an infraction or none based purely on gameplay mechanics, I would probably go for the infraction because she did leave the game when it wasn't an emergency.

[Xiz]

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I'm indifferent and would say no, but if I really had to choose between an infraction or none based purely on gameplay mechanics, I would probably go for the infraction because she did leave the game when it wasn't an emergency.

One infraction it is then.

[dAnceguy117]

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on principle, I would say these infraction rules shouldn't go into effect until after the current game ends. there was no announcement made until now. it doesn't sound like the two affected players are interested in playing again soon, though, so I guess it doesn't matter.

everything else looks good to me.

[Xiz]

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I did make an announcement though, it was at the end of game 106, and was said in skype. Also, it was said in a few other threads as well. I just never made the thread till now.

[mellonxcollie]

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I don't think Snowcrafta should be up there. He was banned repeatedly, he wasn't intentionally skipping out on the game. There was no way he could've known he was going to be banned before signing up. Whoever banned him should be on the naughty list IMO

[devonin]

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I don't think Snowcrafta should be up there. He was banned repeatedly, he wasn't intentionally skipping out on the game. There was no way he could've known he was going to be banned before signing up. Whoever banned him should be on the naughty list IMO

Maybe he could have just not done bannable things and then it wouldn't be a problem?

[Xiz]

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Maybe he could have just not done bannable things and then it wouldn't be a problem?

I'm the same way. It still causes grief on the rest of the players in game. I think that's perhaps the bigger issue?

[FoJaR]

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I don't think Snowcrafta should be up there. He was banned repeatedly, he wasn't intentionally skipping out on the game. There was no way he could've known he was going to be banned before signing up. Whoever banned him should be on the naughty list IMO

i mean i think you, me, and snowcrafta could have guessed that he would be banned before the game ended.

[psychoangel691]

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I think it's messed up that people treat new people as harshly as they do in this game. I don't always make the wolf/mafia connection because I've only seen the game here. The game to me is the wolf game not the mafia game. People go in and out of different terms, roles are constantly changing by game, it's a lot to take in as a new player just getting used to it. I could read every guide on it and probably still have to ask questions at times.

I'm sorry but it does say, "acts like a wolf".. which sort of implies that the SK gets a night kill.

Also information regarding the setup wasn't withheld or anything, all of the information was made public. The fact that you didn't prepare for the game shouldn't be made into an excuse. I understand this is your first time playing this setup, but don't you think it would've been beneficial to yourself and to the rest of us if you took the extra 15 minutes to look through a Wiki page? Maybe a few just to get a general feel for the terms? I mean yeah we're playing a Mafia setup and it's weird because Mafia terms don't translate nicely to TWG, but at the very least you should've prepared for the game.

I don't believe for a second that this was just some act to find out my role. This was chastising me for misunderstanding a role in the game and asking about it.
Then no less even after I leave I continue to get shit on about the situation. How about just get off it already? Trust me you've got your wish j-rodd I wont join another.

I don't even think that people should be getting punished for first time requests for replacements. If you have people who just disappear and don't bother to say anything at all I guess that's one thing, but if someone's been actively participating and needs to ask for a replacement I don't see why they should be punished over it.

[dAnceguy117]

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@Kayla, regarding the cedolad post, that can all be part of TWG. trying to upset someone, trying to make someone angry, trying to shake someone's confidence - those are all valid tactics. new players will only be given special treatment inside of a game if that plays into the game itself.

that being said I think the comments after the game should have been more understanding.

the idea of the rules here is to discourage someone from signing up for a game if they don't think they'll be able to see it through. having to replace someone negatively impacts a game.

[Xiz]

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Leaving a game creates grief for other players in the game. FFR for some reason thinks it's okay to allow so many replacements in a game, and that is not happening anymore. The first penalty is nothing more then a warning, that's why it's there instead of a game ban which was implemented in the past.


This thread is not going to turn into a debate over who was right or wrong in what happened during that game. The penalty is nothing more then a replacement for first time offenders. The penalty stands.

[Xiz]

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(Ninja'd by dance) - but what he said as well

[psychoangel691]

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@Kayla, regarding the cedolad post, that can all be part of TWG. trying to upset someone, trying to make someone angry, trying to shake someone's confidence - those are all valid tactics. new players will only be given special treatment inside of a game if that plays into the game itself.

that being said I think the comments after the game should have been more understanding.

the idea of the rules here is to discourage someone from signing up for a game if they don't think they'll be able to see it through. having to replace someone negatively impacts a game.

What he said doesn't sound like a tactic to me. When I came into this people said don't worry about being new just ask questions etc. Then I got heavily shit on for asking a question when I got thrown off by something someone said about the SK role.

I'm sure there are people who sign up thinking they have the time to play and then run into issues. I started having less time to play this last game because of some irl issues that had come up but tried to play on anyway. The end result was me being too over stressed to deal with the game and rage quitting anyway. I was in no way in the right frame of mind after things that happened but me asking for a replacement would have put me here.

I just don't think it should be oh well you asked for a replacement so you're getting a penalty. I think certain things should be looked at like, did the person just disappear for no reason, do they have a tendency to ask for replacements, etc.