My thoughts on the Rate Option

[Frank Munoz]

Re: My thoughts on the Rate Option

that's p much what I said.

He told me to pick so I picked Casino Fire or whatever some 80 and he was like no lets play something easier. So I told him to pick and I'll play on rates (I dunno if this kid is good or not)
He picked a 30 so I was like I'll just play on 1.5 to make it fair and fun, and he started bitching rofl. ???

ahhh, okay gotcha

[Fission]

Re: My thoughts on the Rate Option

oh.. I thought we established that "******" and any variations of the word were okay to use because we are civilized and understand that we do not use this word in a degrading manner.
I apologize if that is not the case.

i was just fucking with you

[ItsOnlyDanO]

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quality thread 2013

[Fission]

Re: My thoughts on the Rate Option

if you think this is a quality thread you should go read (if you haven't already) https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...d.php?t=133352 aka I'm An Impulsive Idiot That Doesn't Think About The Consequences Of My Actions

[alloyus]

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Guys stop it. It's worded harshly, but think of this as a suggestions thread for rates in MP

[Fission]

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if that's what this is then it's in the completely wrong place still. better to put it in the suggestions forum than QQ about trivialities. OP brought this upon himself with the wording of his post.

[choof]

Re: My thoughts on the Rate Option

because MP wasn't dead as shit.before rates, right

[TC_Halogen]

Re: My thoughts on the Rate Option

Maybe have both players in MP locked into the same rate would address a few of your concerns.

[YoshL]

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[foxfire667]

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Maybe have both players in MP locked into the same rate would address a few of your concerns.

Having players locked in the same rate (assuming above 1.0, because if people can win matches currently with rates below 1.0 that is just lol) would just bring it back to where it was before. "I want to play this easy file", "I'll play, but it will only be fun on 1.5 for me", "I can't play this on 1.5 it would be too hard", "guess we can't play then because it won't be fun for either of us".

So basically it goes back to restricting players from playing with eachother (assuming they want to play files around their skill range, which most usually do). MP is already usually dead, so it needs any life support it can get really.

[HalfStep]

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edit: wrong thread rofl (clap)

[benguino]

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Well, there is one valid point the OP made. If two people play in different rates, then one will surely finish before the other. And if it's a very long song that is being played, it is possible for one person to finish several minutes before the other person which may ruin the MP experience for some.

I haven't played MP in ages, but if I recall, you can see your opponent's PA as you're playing the song iirc? If that's the case, then the issue that rates have is that one person will be progressing through the song at a faster rate, so comparing your pa with the other person's as you are playing the song is somewhat worthless because you are comparing PA at two different points in the chart.

However, the whole "waaaaaaaah, my opponent is playing on rates AND beating my score and it's hurting my ego" argument holds no ground. Unless you are the best person, there is going to be someone better than you.

[YoshL]

Re: My thoughts on the Rate Option

Well, there is one valid point the OP made. If two people play in different rates, then one will surely finish before the other. And if it's a very long song that is being played, it is possible for one person to finish several minutes before the other person which may ruin the MP experience for some.

Having players locked in the same rate (assuming above 1.0, because if people can win matches currently with rates below 1.0 that is just lol) would just bring it back to where it was before. "I want to play this easy file", "I'll play, but it will only be fun on 1.5 for me", "I can't play this on 1.5 it would be too hard", "guess we can't play then because it won't be fun for either of us".

So basically it goes back to restricting players from playing with eachother (assuming they want to play files around their skill range, which most usually do). MP is already usually dead, so it needs any life support it can get really.

point in question isn't flawless either

[benguino]

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After reading foxfire's post, I think the arguments against having locked-in rates have more ground than the arguments for it. I was just trying to qualify the other position...you guys are quick to bash any position that isn't yours and assume your opponent is retarded.

[Tim Allen]

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edit: Wrong thread rofl (clap)

showing off rude double elitist