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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #16
    Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

    Watched Alice's Garden on autoplay to see if the file was as bad as people were making it out to be.

    The structure is there, but the main issue I have with the file is that some of the flams in the chart feel a bit arbitrary because, for an easy chart, the distance is quite negligible to be jumps as opposed to separated. Some of the grace notes seem visually incorrect in terms of distancing.

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    • XelNya
      [Kaho]
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2012
      • 3369

      #17
      Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

      Originally posted by Choofers
      middie can you stop stepping good songs and ruining them please, thank you
      Even if you don't like it, which you're obviously not going to, I'm gonna keep doing it. I happen to like charts like these.

      Originally posted by SC_coolguy44
      Alice's Garden: Maybe it should be bumped up a few difficulties
      I agree with this however it's a mellow chart, but the graces do make it harder to hit if you're a newer player looking at it.

      Also Aj, assuming I am interpreting what you're saying right, is that people can't hit the graces as jumps, that was sort of intended. It's more fun that way than just cheating it.
      Last edited by XelNya; 08-24-2013, 03:43 PM.

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      • Xiz
        TWG Chaos
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Feb 2012
        • 3399

        #18
        Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

        Alice's Garden
        I love the song but the file drags a bit. I liked playing it though.

        Sagano Rakuyou Emaki
        Holy trombones and a pogo-stick batman! This file is really damn fun. I can def see myself playing this many many times. Best file of the week IMO.

        Suit Up
        Good song choice, but it kinda dragged a bit. Lots of repetition. However, this file was fun to play so I'm cool with it.

        XTC Hill Zone Act 24.7
        This file is annoying, in a good way haha. This one is gonna take me a lot of time to get the hang of, I accept your challenge.

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        • mi40
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2008
          • 3655

          #19
          Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

          go back to twei mark park and leave our flashbulb alone

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          • Ohaider
            FFR Veteran
            • Jun 2012
            • 2893

            #20
            Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

            Songs of the Week (July 26, 2013) v2

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            • Xiz
              TWG Chaos
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2012
              • 3399

              #21
              Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

              I really think Suit Up should be more of a 46-48 IMO.

              Open to critique >.>

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              • bmah
                shots FIRED
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                Global Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 8448

                #22
                Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                Make a difficulty thread about it if you can point to some objective qualities. Similarly, I wonder if XTC is a 65.

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                • DossarLX ODI
                  Batch Manager
                  Game Manager
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15004

                  #23
                  Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                  Suit Up:
                  - The 16ths offsetted as 64ths are an entire frame off and it's noticeable. The song runs at 110 BPM for those sections, and a 64th is a guaranteed frame off (possibility of two, but in this case that didn't happen)
                  - The sudden long jack with the trill is a huge spike in FC difficulty for this file
                  - Severe slowdowns such as the 27.5 one are entirely unwarranted. There is a hi-hat going at 110 BPM 4ths and stepping them as 16ths at 27.5 BPM is ridiculous. The unnecessary low BPM usage needs to stop; even the 55 BPM ones are pushing it.

                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                  • popsicle_3000
                    Legendary Noob
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 4641

                    #24
                    Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                    Originally posted by MrPopadopalis25
                    ]XTC Hill Zone: The steps have a sort of retro feel to them, both in layering and pattern choice,
                    AH! that's what it was. i knew i liked it a lot for some reason, just couldn't put my finger on why. I'm a sucker for that retro feeling file.

                    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                    39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                    one way to stream them all
                    Originally posted by Xiz
                    Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                    But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                    Originally posted by thesunfan
                    replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                    Originally posted by reuben_tate
                    Title: Popsicle Three

                    Thousand the farthest
                    He's gone in an official
                    Whoop hip hip hooray!
                    Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                    kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                    @popsicle_3000:
                    Danger incoming
                    The popsicles are melting
                    Three thousand of them
                    Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                    you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                    dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                    friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                    dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                    friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                    dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                    friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                    dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                    friend: thanks man
                    dynam0: no problem man
                    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                    pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                    Originally posted by Xiz
                    Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                    • bmah
                      shots FIRED
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 8448

                      #25
                      Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                      - The 16ths offsetted as 64ths are an entire frame off and it's noticeable. The song runs at 110 BPM for those sections, and a 64th is a guaranteed frame off (possibility of two, but in this case that didn't happen)
                      While a 128th arrow would've been preferable, you can just nudge those arrows a frame and send me the swf again.

                      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                      - The sudden long jack with the trill is a huge spike in FC difficulty for this file
                      It's not even a huge spike, but really, people need to stop being obsessed with consistency as if Vertex Beta was the top role model for a file.

                      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                      - Severe slowdowns such as the 27.5 one are entirely unwarranted. There is a hi-hat going at 110 BPM 4ths and stepping them as 16ths at 27.5 BPM is ridiculous. The unnecessary low BPM usage needs to stop; even the 55 BPM ones are pushing it.
                      I personally think this is a stylistic choice in this case, and I'll be damned if a judge takes off points for this.

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                      • qqwref
                        stepmania archaeologist
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 4092

                        #26
                        Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                        Originally posted by bmah
                        128th arrow
                        bmah, there's no such thing as a 128th arrow. Come on.

                        Originally posted by bmah
                        It's not even a huge spike, but really, people need to stop being obsessed with consistency as if Vertex Beta was the top role model for a file.
                        It's easy to tell people to "stop being obsessed with consistency" when you can AAA the chart (so difficulty consistency doesn't affect you). Dossar is talking about a long jack in a file without any, and long jacks are naturally hard to FC with or without mashing. This spike may matter a lot to someone who can FC everything else in the chart.
                        Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                        Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                        Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                        • DossarLX ODI
                          Batch Manager
                          Game Manager
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15004

                          #27
                          Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                          Originally posted by qqwref
                          It's easy to tell people to "stop being obsessed with consistency" when you can AAA the chart (so difficulty consistency doesn't affect you). Dossar is talking about a long jack in a file without any, and long jacks are naturally hard to FC with or without mashing. This spike may matter a lot to someone who can FC everything else in the chart.
                          Long jacks are very hard to FC compared to spread out patterns. Someone can have a lot of difficulty FCing the beginning of Largiloquent Dithyramb but do great on many other FGOs. So yes, if there is a long jack like that which stands out, I will mention it.

                          If someone is going to offset notes, they should take the effort to snap it appropriately. DDReam or a recolorizer works for this.

                          Also making a color mess is not a stylistic choice, that's just being rude. If a song is 120 BPM, you don't slow it down to 30 BPM if there are clear 4th rhythms in it at the normal BPM. Someone could submit a 240 bpm 16th stream file as 60 BPM 64ths and call it a "stylistic choice".
                          Originally posted by hi19hi19
                          oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                          • ilikexd
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 3209

                            #28
                            Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                            i think suit up is really cool and well done

                            however i agree with dossar that a lot of the bpm changes were just ridiculous

                            the bpm halving when the background cuts out a few times is a very nice affect, but

                            the beginning wasnt halved which is like one of the more reasonable places it could be done (it was halved in other places that sound the same as here)

                            @ around 400 and 850 is kind of absurd to have 32nds and 64ths, if anything it's more reasonable to raise the bpm

                            of course it's a stylistic choice, and not everybody would approach the song by changing the bpm a dozen times, but that alone isn't a justification, there should always be a good reason to make use of bpm change.. doubling/having bpm to accentuate how energetic/mellow a part of a song is is a good choice (like all the very short halving when the bg cut out was great), but it was done counterintuitively here a few times

                            i dont think the long trill is over the top though

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                            • mi40
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3655

                              #29
                              Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                              notice how the simfile author says

                              DarkZtar

                              and not

                              DossarLX ODI/qqwref

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                              • DarkZtar
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                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 668

                                #30
                                Re: Songs of the Week (August 24, 2013)

                                I like green~

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