jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

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  • BOSS_pjpaveloffga
    FFR Veteran
    • Aug 2006
    • 486

    #76
    Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

    Why would it matter. The wolf would be stupid to kill the vigi. If the vigi submits and kills a human thats -1 human for the wolf not including his wolfing. And if he doesn't submit thats still -1.
    If the wolf targets the vigi, the vigi could just not submit and there's only one kill that night.
    I only see a benefit to the vigi coming out so the majority can make a decision.
    Originally posted by MrRubix
    They need an FFR suitable for Canadians.

    Judge 1, Difficulty Cap of 9, etc

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    • cedolad
      moonchild~
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2007
      • 6879

      #77
      Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

      well that's what I'm confused about. Wouldn't you rather have a more informed decision when sending the vigi kill? If we get everyone together and find the wolf, then we can end this n2.

      Plus anyway if the wolf sends a kill they're always killing a confirmed human. derp.

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      • Krauthammer
        FFR Player
        • May 2012
        • 362

        #78
        Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

        More like the wolf would be stupid not to kill the Vigi.

        After all it would be a confirmed human. And if the Vigi hits another human, it is two threats less for the wolf.

        Also I'm worried by the amount of votes. There better not be phantoms! Phase ends today!

        ...I think.

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        • BOSS_pjpaveloffga
          FFR Veteran
          • Aug 2006
          • 486

          #79
          Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

          Originally posted by BOSS_pjpaveloffga
          If the wolf targets the vigi, the vigi could just not submit and there's only one kill that night.
          and confirmed human? lol we're all confirmed humans besides the wolf
          Originally posted by MrRubix
          They need an FFR suitable for Canadians.

          Judge 1, Difficulty Cap of 9, etc

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          • cedolad
            moonchild~
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2007
            • 6879

            #80
            Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

            If the Vigi is left alive, the chance of them hitting the wolf is 1/9. If he doesn't come out and make a good kill, that's two human kills right there for the wolf.

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            • j-rodd123
              End of the road
              • Oct 2006
              • 3692

              #81
              Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

              Yea what kraut said, if a wolf doesn't kill the vigi that would be a pretty stupid move

              Originally posted by FictionJunction
              wow

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              • cedolad
                moonchild~
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2007
                • 6879

                #82
                Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                it's n2. it doesn't really matter if the wolf hits him or not. If he dies when he sends his kill then that's two kills. If he dies and doesn't send out his kill that's one kill.

                Think of it this way:

                Vigi comes out, we all make an informed decision, vigi kills, wolf kills. Wolf dead game over.

                Vigi comes out, figures he is targeted by wolf, doesn't kill, and the wolf targets him. Only one human dead. Wolving was pointless.

                Vigi doesn't come out, doesn't make an informed decision, vigi kills, wolf kills. More than likely two humans are dead.

                Any scenario I'm missing here?

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                • BOSS_pjpaveloffga
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 486

                  #83
                  Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                  I retract my former statments due to being wrong
                  Originally posted by MrRubix
                  They need an FFR suitable for Canadians.

                  Judge 1, Difficulty Cap of 9, etc

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                  • cedolad
                    moonchild~
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6879

                    #84
                    Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                    oh yeah

                    Vigi comes out, we don't say shit, vigi randomly kills, wolf kills, two dead humans.

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                    • Krauthammer
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2012
                      • 362

                      #85
                      Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                      Also!

                      I would like to point that not using the Vigi would not be good.

                      Yeah, it has much bigger chances of eliminating a human, which is a step closer for the wolf to win. BUT...

                      It also means one suspect least for everybody to take into consideration, narrowing even more the field. Which is also one step closer for us to win.

                      Vigi, my personal suggestion is that you stay hidden and kill whoever you think is a wolf. That is it.

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                      • cedolad
                        moonchild~
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6879

                        #86
                        Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                        Also retracting my statements about the vigi coming out.

                        Realized that using the Vigi and the Wolf to get two kills n2 would be more beneficial then trying to get the wolf off the bat. Definitely easier to spot a wolf after there's only 8 players.

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                        • BOSS_pjpaveloffga
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 486

                          #87
                          Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                          also is it possible that zoshi was vigi and came out to wolf? odds are slim I guess
                          Originally posted by MrRubix
                          They need an FFR suitable for Canadians.

                          Judge 1, Difficulty Cap of 9, etc

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                          • Krauthammer
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2012
                            • 362

                            #88
                            Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                            Well, there is always the chance of Zoshi being the Vigi.

                            But we aren't going to know until Night 2 is gone. After that happens, the best we can do is suppose the Vigi is dead.

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                            • j-rodd123
                              End of the road
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3692

                              #89
                              Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                              safety on [vote]bynary[/vote] so i can talk to some nignogs

                              Originally posted by FictionJunction
                              wow

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                              • j-rodd123
                                End of the road
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3692

                                #90
                                Re: jTWG LXIV The Indians of 10

                                oops bynary

                                Originally posted by FictionJunction
                                wow

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