I wasn't done with atheism/theism

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[Crazyjayde]

Originally Posted by JJTrixX

I believe in God. I believe in Gods word because it is so written in the Bible.

What you have listed are reasons to believe in God, which is highly insufficient to what Reincarnate asked as they do not regard the integrity of the Bible itself. To reiterate the question for better understanding: How do you know the Bible is the Word of God?

Therefore, when told about your religion you should answer that you place your faith in the Bible but not in the words of God as the only rational evidence we can observe is that God is the repercussion of the Bible, and not the other way around. You basically say "I believe in God because the Bible says so". Where is your faith in God then? In the Bible. And therefore, your faith in God consists of more faith? Would you admit that there is no rationality in that sense and therefore, no existence of God apart from in your faith?

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

I'd like you to express your opinions on my original post, and to explain to me your viewpoint on how you consider reason and faith, and if reason can be used as a way to reinforce faith. (existence of God)

Whenever you feel like it

[JJTrixX]

Originally Posted by Crazyjayde

What you have listed are reasons to believe in God, which is highly insufficient to what Reincarnate asked as they do not regard the integrity of the Bible itself. To reiterate the question for better understanding: How do you know the Bible is the Word of God?

The Bible contains Gods spoken word. The reason is because God can not lie nor change his mind. Men lie. Men change ther minds.

"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" Numbers 23:19

If God lied, then I guess the Bible would not be credible. So I challenge you to find me one lie within the Bible. Good luck

The stories in the Bible are historical fact, not myths. If you can "prove to me" otherwise then you would have done something that atheists such as yourselves were not able to do for thousands of years. No theories, no excuses.

[Crazyjayde]

Originally Posted by From TheThinkingAtheist.com

Who is Punished for Sins?

Ezekiel 18:20: The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.
-> The penalty of sin is placed upon only the sinner, not the offspring.

Exodus 20:5: I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
-> The penalty of sin affects generations.

If the Bible is truly the words of God as you say so, whether he decides to bear the sins of the father upon the son or not, he would lie either way.
We've come to a loophole in the christian doctrine.

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by JJTrixX

If God lied, then I guess the Bible would not be credible. So I challenge you to find me one lie within the Bible. Good luck

I will be happy to link you to sites that show places in the Bible where something is stated unambiguously, and then the exact opposite is stated unambiguously somewhere else. There are even situations in which a number's value is given very differently in different places. Would you not agree that, if two statements directly contradict each other, one must be incorrect?

Originally Posted by JJTrixX

The stories in the Bible are historical fact, not myths.

Haha oh wow, you're one of THOSE, huh?

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by JJTrixX

The stories in the Bible are historical fact, not myths.

Oh my God. (sorry for breaking the 3rd commandment jk not rly)