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  • DossarLX ODI
    Batch Manager
    Game Manager
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2008
    • 15004

    #226
    Re: Suspicious scores thread~

    Nah, lemonman also had an impossible score on Runny Morning. It's cheated.

    The bizarre part is that it doesn't show up in the levelranks page, but it does show up on the song stats page.
    Originally posted by hi19hi19
    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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    • popsicle_3000
      Legendary Noob
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2005
      • 4641

      #227
      Re: Suspicious scores thread~

      also this. party 4u v2
      Attached Files

      Originally posted by One Winged Angel
      39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
      Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
      one way to stream them all
      Originally posted by Xiz
      Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

      But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
      Originally posted by thesunfan
      replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
      Originally posted by reuben_tate
      Title: Popsicle Three

      Thousand the farthest
      He's gone in an official
      Whoop hip hip hooray!
      Originally posted by U.N. Owen
      kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

      @popsicle_3000:
      Danger incoming
      The popsicles are melting
      Three thousand of them
      Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
      you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

      dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
      friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
      dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
      friend: hey bro can i tell you something
      dynam0 yeah man whats up?
      friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
      dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
      friend: thanks man
      dynam0: no problem man
      Originally posted by One Winged Angel
      pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
      Originally posted by Xiz
      Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #228
        Re: Suspicious scores thread~

        In that second case, those scores might have been added manually before the automated unrecorded scores page was used.

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        • bmah
          shots FIRED
          Profile Moderator
          FFR Simfile Author
          Global Moderator
          • Oct 2003
          • 8448

          #229
          Re: Suspicious scores thread~

          Beast&Harlot and lemonman's scores have been removed and blacklisted. For the former, I actually had to manually remove the individual score, because it would normally show that the user didn't have any recorded scores.

          As for popsicle's case, those - at least for scottish - might be manual scores added without the proper scoring info prepared.
          edit: oh thx AJ hehe

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          • qqwref
            stepmania archaeologist
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2005
            • 4092

            #230
            Re: Suspicious scores thread~

            bmah, would you be up for fixing all the AAA scores with incorrect PGAMBC counts? You could probably do it all in one step if you know SQL (or whatever's being used in FFR). Honestly it's kinda silly to see stuff like 0-0-TONS-0-0 on a score that can never be improved

            e: if you do this, keep a transaction or some other record of what gets changed, so you can check if there was anything weird-looking...
            Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
            Best SDG: PANTS (86)
            Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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            • bmah
              shots FIRED
              Profile Moderator
              FFR Simfile Author
              Global Moderator
              • Oct 2003
              • 8448

              #231
              Re: Suspicious scores thread~

              Originally posted by qqwref
              bmah, would you be up for fixing all the AAA scores with incorrect PGAMBC counts? You could probably do it all in one step if you know SQL (or whatever's being used in FFR). Honestly it's kinda silly to see stuff like 0-0-TONS-0-0 on a score that can never be improved

              e: if you do this, keep a transaction or some other record of what gets changed, so you can check if there was anything weird-looking...
              I was thinking of that, but you don't truly know their scores. There are multiple ways of achieving the same score, unless it's something like a booflag. A score that's equivalent to three goods but shows 0-0-0-0-0 on the levelranks could be X-3-0-0-0, but could also potentially be a combination of other junk instead.

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              • nois-or-e
                SponCon Aficionado
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Mar 2007
                • 3250

                #232
                Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                Originally posted by qqwref
                bmah, would you be up for fixing all the AAA scores with incorrect PGAMBC counts? You could probably do it all in one step if you know SQL (or whatever's being used in FFR). Honestly it's kinda silly to see stuff like 0-0-TONS-0-0 on a score that can never be improved

                e: if you do this, keep a transaction or some other record of what gets changed, so you can check if there was anything weird-looking...

                If you mean the unrecorded scores with the AAA value in averages in place of perfects, I am fairly sure Sprite- was telling me that this is so that we have a hard record of the unrecorded score on the users levelranks. I was under the impression that the score would auto-update if the user re-AAA'd tho...

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                • TC_Halogen
                  Rhythm game specialist.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 19376

                  #233
                  Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                  Originally posted by nois-or-e
                  If you mean the unrecorded scores with the AAA value in averages in place of perfects, I am fairly sure Sprite- was telling me that this is so that we have a hard record of the unrecorded score on the users levelranks. I was under the impression that the score would auto-update if the user re-AAA'd tho...
                  All correct. I know this because I was around when Dom was creating this from scratch -- your score will update to the x-0-0-0-0 AAA score if you achieve it again, but if you don't, it'll still be considered a AAA (rank 1).

                  Also, there is a log for unrecorded scores for those who have access to add scores, along with an ID number for the particular entry. The full-average was more of a notification for other people. I do agree with qqwref, though - if there's a changelog viewable for those that have access, then there's no reason to worry about putting it as all averages.

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                  • qqwref
                    stepmania archaeologist
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 4092

                    #234
                    Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                    I was actually just referring to scores that actually are AAAs (rank 1). I guess you could re-AAA (didn't know that would fix it, btw) but it's weird to make people have to do that just to have their scores display properly...
                    Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                    Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                    Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                    • noname219
                      FFR Wiki Admin
                      • May 2007
                      • 1694

                      #235
                      Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                      Quick question : why does those scores register averages instead of perfects?

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                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #236
                        Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                        Originally posted by qqwref
                        I was actually just referring to scores that actually are AAAs (rank 1). I guess you could re-AAA (didn't know that would fix it, btw) but it's weird to make people have to do that just to have their scores display properly...
                        Yeah, and in some cases, it's extremely difficult (one of my unrecorded AAAs is Grand Galop Chromatique ).

                        Originally posted by noname219
                        Quick question : why does those scores register averages instead of perfects?
                        I can't remember it being done that way for any reason other than to serve as a notification that the score was unrecorded. Those who were looking for illegitimate players would be able to skim over these scores as well, despite how awkward they appeared.

                        With there being a very powerful anti-cheat and a log for scores that don't get recorded automatically, I think it might be worthwhile to update the code to write the actual numbers in the table, rather than just adding the max combo to all averages, regardless of the counts. It would also be very slightly helpful to tournament hosts who run into a score like that but aren't sure what to do with it.

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                        • Elite Ninja
                          Kawaii Desu
                          Event Staff
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 4828

                          #237
                          Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                          Haha one time someone called me a hacker because I had a weird unrecorded score on Zombie Sunset that looked like 0-0-2780-0-0 x3

                          Atleast I've improved and fixed it but I still have others (Like my 11ELEVEN (suppose to be 8-0-0-0) and Dimensions Of A Square(Suppose to be AAA but I could re-AAA this to fix the way it looks lol))
                          Best AAA = Aballava(?) + Serious Shit (97)
                          Best SDG = Fushigi Usagi Milk Tei 8-0-0-3 (101)
                          Best Score = do i smile? 3-0-0-3 (100)

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                          • Mike Weedmark
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1196

                            #238
                            Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                            Hate to accuse someone, but imo funnygurl's scores are extremely suspicious. In 2 months she has gone from AAAing her first VC to AAAing Spaceman. If she's just that damn good (which would make her the fastest improving player of all time with no one else even coming a little bit close) then sorry, but I'm almost willing to bet real money someone else is playing on her account. She was extremely average for a very long time, and then almost instantly she's a hair's width from D6? Possible, I suppose, but deserving of investigation, for sure.

                            Also, has Yoshl been looked at before? It's weird that he has that SDG Kirby Music and then not even one other score that's anything like it. Did he just go SSJ for one round that happened to be the final round of a tournament, or...?
                            Last edited by Mike Weedmark; 08-14-2012, 09:04 AM.

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                            • DossarLX ODI
                              Batch Manager
                              Game Manager
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15004

                              #239
                              Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                              The only weird part of YOSHl's Kirby replay is how he managed to 1-frame one of the jumpjacks at the end, that was ridiculous.

                              funnygurl has some really stupid plays. I and Halogen looked into them -- especially Pandora (possible arrow slowdown) and Canary Part V. Canary Part V was just... stupid -- and one of her plays also had a zeroframe hit. Just in general a very fishy player.
                              Originally posted by hi19hi19
                              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                              • popsicle_3000
                                Legendary Noob
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 4641

                                #240
                                Re: Suspicious scores thread~

                                velo's score on whimper wall?

                                Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                                39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                                Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                                one way to stream them all
                                Originally posted by Xiz
                                Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                                But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                                Originally posted by thesunfan
                                replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                                Originally posted by reuben_tate
                                Title: Popsicle Three

                                Thousand the farthest
                                He's gone in an official
                                Whoop hip hip hooray!
                                Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                                kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                                @popsicle_3000:
                                Danger incoming
                                The popsicles are melting
                                Three thousand of them
                                Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                                you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                                dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                                friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                                dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                                friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                                dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                                friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                                dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                                friend: thanks man
                                dynam0: no problem man
                                Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                                pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                                Originally posted by Xiz
                                Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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