FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

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  • FFR4EVA_00
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 1770

    #136
    Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

    Originally posted by rushyrulz
    I'm surprised this debate didn't happen over Amen Iraq lol.
    d6 people don't give a shit about the ratings of songs that are easy for them
    ~*~Lurkadurk - 1134-7796-6967~*~

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    • Hateandhatred
      "The Quebec Steparatist."
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Feb 2011
      • 1974

      #137
      Re: 6th Official FFR Tournament - Round 4 has started!

      Originally posted by leonid
      Max Forever is the hardest FMO
      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA slow trills ftw.

      Anyway, what I and Gundam-Dude said. What the hell does the file rating change? It doesn't change the file itself. It's the chart that makes the difficulty and not that little number next to it's title. It doesn't change what you are going to play once you click on it.

      That number is only there to tell you if it's in your range of playing, so you don't have to shuffle random songs until you can find something adapted to what you're looking for.

      Of course, that system may need revision. And yeah, maybe there's some arguing to be done. Like I said, I think that Halcyon is harder that half the FGOs out there. And if it's rated over the entirety of the file, make Crowdpleaser a 9, or a low 10, because all realistically, there is like half a second where someone from D1 would break his combo. Lol. There is no way to qualify what a file is made of using a simple number.

      IMO, I'd like to see Stepmania's difficulty system in the game. Like the Chaos-Freeze-etc polygon. That'd do the job much better than just that difficulty scale. And have it done automatically by a computer. Then there wouldn't be much to argue against it since the computer would decide.

      But I'm getting off topic.

      TL;DR: Stop caring that much about the difficulty number. It's not so misguiding so Death Piano is a 6. Play the file and concerning for a difference of one level isn't really worth it and can't be realistically helped with the current system as we all know.

      /Ranting
      Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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      • smartdude1212
        2 is poo
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2005
        • 6687

        #138
        Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

        I still claim Radical Rat has that edge over Toxiferous for hard FMOs. :care:

        As for Halcyon, it plays like a top-end FMO in the vein of a faster 4CT. Some of those 24th sections can be rough (though they are still incredibly forgiving when it comes to a general avoidance of jacks), but the majority of the file is just dense jumpstream with burst transitions (except that stuff at 1100 which is just silly).

        I say it should remain one of the harder FMOs... like Kirby and Radical Rat.

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        • TC_Halogen
          Rhythm game specialist.
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2008
          • 19376

          #139
          Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

          Originally posted by FFR4EVA_00
          d6 people don't give a shit about the ratings of songs that are easy for them
          I do

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          • stavie33
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2006
            • 1925

            #140
            Re: 6th Official FFR Tournament - Round 4 has started!

            I cannot do the really fast burst roll after the 24ths in Sambista, rest of the song is easy, can't miss a good in those.

            And what a ****ing HUGE difficulty jump for Halcyon. Jesus it's way harder than Iraq that song is def a really high FMO. Wow bursts in dense jumpstream. Good luck D5, sheesh you guys really did get a kick in the face. I'm having tons of trouble with that song currently.

            Bmah, you have once more proven why I consider you the best stepartist we have. Also, Wiinter dream is by far my favorite song and file, second I saw bmah + yamajet I knew it would be. Halcyon is close but it's just way too cluster **** to enjoy some parts.

            Tough round for nearly everyone guys, I guess here is where they weed out the champions and those who got lucky.
            It's getting better all the time
            I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
            The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
            You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
            Turning me round (Oh Oh)
            Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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            • bmah
              shots FIRED
              Profile Moderator
              FFR Simfile Author
              Global Moderator
              • Oct 2003
              • 8448

              #141
              Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

              Flattered by your thoughts Stavie. Thanks!

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              • justin_ator
                🥓<strong><span style="col
                • Mar 2007
                • 7648

                #142
                Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                I think I've officially decided that unless I am asked my opinion, I'm not going to comment on song difficulties. Too many subjective opinions already and as far as I can tell mine usually gets skimmed over as a "not-so-experienced-player's" point-of-view.

                Not mad, lol.

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                • yo man im awesome
                  soleil ardent
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2007
                  • 6514

                  #143
                  Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                  Sittin' on 2Gs...

                  This is the most ragebait file I've ever played, and I've only played through it twice... I like it.

                  Originally posted by choof
                  you double dad loving dipshit
                  Originally posted by t-rogdor
                  dammit now i have to smoke a picture of choof out of a bong
                  Originally posted by smartdude1212
                  I can't be the only guy who has wondered what it'd be like to menstruate all over the shower.

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                  • bmah
                    shots FIRED
                    Profile Moderator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    Global Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 8448

                    #144
                    Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                    There's no need to be afraid to post your opinion. People are just being too aggressive about it, that's all.

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                    • justin_ator
                      🥓<strong><span style="col
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 7648

                      #145
                      Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                      Not really afraid to, I just don't see the point.
                      'go play honki and compare' is kind of like telling an experienced runner to go run a long distance and compare it to another distance. He obviously knows how he'll feel after running it, because he does it all the time.

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                      • One Winged Angel
                        Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 10837

                        #146
                        Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                        Halcyon is really high FMO, FN/honki/Lolo/TtE etc. should just be bumped down

                        /thread

                        (I could write an essay about why but I honestly cbf, and there really wouldn't be much point because swaying people's opinions on shit like this is usually impossible [and rightfully so since every player has their own strengths and weaknesses])

                        When I find time apart from studying for finals, I'll probably start up that 1-100 difficulty list again, working from VC downwards...anyone who's willing to help out, PM me


                        Originally posted by ilikexd
                        i want to be cucked by cirno

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                        • who_cares973
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 15407

                          #147
                          Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                          lolo isnt fmo :<. never played honki or time to eye so i have no opinion on those

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                          • j-rodd123
                            End of the road
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3692

                            #148
                            Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                            D3s file makes me rage so hard, don't wanna get eliminated on such a stuuupid chart -.- . And yes I know I obviously could not do any better, but my opinion is that this chart is just not fun at all, plus I suck at it :P

                            Originally posted by FictionJunction
                            wow

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                            • stavie33
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1925

                              #149
                              Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                              Not gonna pull a subjectivemania here and ask it to be bumped up, but Halcyon is by far the hardest FMO I have ever played. I just went back and played all the high FMO's and low FGO's after whoring Halcyon for an hour to see if it was just me today, but it's not. For me, Halcyon is the hardest FMO ever, and it's definitely harder for me than most low FGO's. Objectively? It's hard as balls, that's all I'm going to say. The new FGO btw seemed really easy and then it got to the trills and I said **** it so I'm not playing that again for a while trills with jumps be gay. Wiinter is my favorite song and file this time. Bmah, you have once more proven you're the best stepartist on FFR.
                              It's getting better all the time
                              I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                              The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                              You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                              Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                              Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                              • bmah
                                shots FIRED
                                Profile Moderator
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                Global Moderator
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 8448

                                #150
                                Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 4

                                Originally posted by j-rodd123
                                plus I suck at it :P
                                well there you go


                                [p.s. you can suck at a file and still like it too]

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