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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #3451
    Re: Ingame Song Information

    Originally posted by qqwref
    I don't know how Halogen is calculating taps/second, but I would like to do it like this: (30 * number of arrows) (last frame of arrows - first frame of arrows + 1). This way the number of empty frames before the first arrow doesn't matter. I think this would change up the counts a bit. Also we should definitely consider some of the higher FMOs for the list.
    I can reconsider the calculations tomorrow; I was just going by length/arrows, as JX was previously doing. I definitely agree with you quite a bit.

    Also, I didn't include the 11s because I was pretty sure that none of them would make it onto the top 10 list anyway -- you've got to be moving pretty quickly to get that high up.

    Originally posted by igotrhythm
    I'm going to go ahead and say that Reality's average TPS is incredibly deceiving, as the 77s figure takes into account the empty intro. Take off the 10 second radio announcement (or whatever) and you get 921 notes/67 seconds = 13.75 T/S, which is in line with most of the other FGOs listed. ERB has the same deal.
    Yeah, I'm aware of this. I'll probably take the time off tomorrow to try and get a true value by using frame counts. Thanks for bringing that up, qqwref.

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    • jimerax
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Nov 2003
      • 8185

      #3452
      Re: Ingame Song Information

      That looks more accurate, and better if it isn't difficult for you.

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      • qqwref
        stepmania archaeologist
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2005
        • 4092

        #3453
        Re: Ingame Song Information

        Originally posted by TC_Halogen
        Also, I didn't include the 11s because I was pretty sure that none of them would make it onto the top 10 list anyway -- you've got to be moving pretty quickly to get that high up.
        Ah, but your 10th place has 12.45 taps/second, so anything which consistently manages more than ~187bpm stream has a shot. It's not actually as fast as it sounds if the patterns are nice - a solid streamy file like FotBB/EHHS could potentially make the list.

        I had a nice top 10 list back at the Tasselfoot forums a while back (before some new songs got released) but the forum isn't working right now. I actually already have a program to do the frame count stuff.

        EDIT: Found it, thanks to Google Cache.
        0. Vertex BETA vrofl: 25.65
        1. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 17.49
        2. The Adventures of Lolo: 15.46
        3. Death Piano: 14.70
        4. Here We Go: 14.10
        5. Kidney Stone: 13.62
        6. Reality: 13.58
        7. Winter Wind Etude: 13.46
        8. Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star: 13.20
        9. Eclipse (Solar): 13.15
        10. Flight of the Bumblebee: 13.05
        Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
        Best SDG: PANTS (86)
        Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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        • JoeSauce
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2011
          • 2

          #3454
          Re: Ingame Song Information

          can some one tell me what the main song is when you load up the game as its playing in the background ? =) it would be greatly appreciated thanks!!

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #3455
            Re: Ingame Song Information

            Emotions, by Trance Control.

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            • JoeSauce
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2011
              • 2

              #3456
              Re: Ingame Song Information

              Why thank you kind sir.

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              • jimerax
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Nov 2003
                • 8185

                #3457
                Re: Ingame Song Information

                Just did some genre tweaks, reduced the # of misc songs a bit, etc.

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                • HammyMcSquirrel
                  Everlong
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 3833

                  #3458
                  Re: Ingame Song Information

                  Sprite and I would usually update the FAQ with the current list of secret songs but we're just gonna put a link to this thread instead. With that said, I added Voodoo People to the list. I also put in the page links for the songs that didn't have them. I hope you don't mind.

                  On a side note... I don't know about you, Jimerax, but I get a slow response and sometimes database errors that require some refreshing to get past when I make edits to the OP. You may want to consider some way of breaking it up to have less characters. I ran across this problem with the pseudo token thread. The OP eventually contained so much information that I couldn't edit it. I had to break it up into multiple posts. It seems you may be getting to that point here.

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                  • qqwref
                    stepmania archaeologist
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 4092

                    #3459
                    Re: Ingame Song Information

                    Voodoo People is really hard for a 9 (lots of minijacks and some trills with jumps). I'd say it should absolutely be a 10. We'd need to wait a while to see how people are doing on it, but to me it is absolutely too hard for a 9.
                    Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                    Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                    Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                    • bmah
                      shots FIRED
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                      Global Moderator
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 8448

                      #3460
                      Re: Ingame Song Information

                      I thought it was a 9, IMO. Just be consistent. And if you don't like left-handed minijacks, you can always mirror and try the converse.

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                      • who_cares973
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 15407

                        #3461
                        Re: Ingame Song Information

                        no 9 should be harder than over the frail dream. if it is then its a 10

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                        • qqwref
                          stepmania archaeologist
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 4092

                          #3462
                          Re: Ingame Song Information

                          Originally posted by bmah
                          I thought it was a 9, IMO. Just be consistent.
                          Gee, I'm sorry I suck too much to easily low SDG 9s these days. But I guess I'm also good enough to low SDG plenty of songs that are two difficulties higher?

                          When we look at difficulties, we have to get past the mentality of thinking that anything you can easily do should be not much harder for lower-skilled players. If you find something easy, you won't be able to tell how hard it is for actual players, because you can't compare two things which are both trivial to you. I've seen people make that mistake with jumptrillable patterns, jacks, jumpstream, and color notes - and I think you're making it here.

                          Originally posted by bmah
                          And if you don't like left-handed minijacks, you can always mirror and try the converse.
                          Tried that. But it's still got left hand minijacks, and lots of right hand ones. And I shouldn't have to be mirroring a 9 to do well on it.
                          Last edited by qqwref; 02-9-2011, 10:19 PM.
                          Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                          Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                          Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                          • who_cares973
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 15407

                            #3463
                            Re: Ingame Song Information

                            Originally posted by who_cares973
                            no 9 should be harder than over the frail dream. if it is then its a 10
                            not just saying this just because, tass actually made it clear that otfd was suppose to be the hardest 9 in game

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                            • bmah
                              shots FIRED
                              Profile Moderator
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              Global Moderator
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8448

                              #3464
                              Re: Ingame Song Information

                              Originally posted by qqwref
                              Tried that. But it's still got left hand minijacks, and lots of right hand ones. And I shouldn't have to be mirroring a 9 to do well on it.
                              (non-mirror) It only has one set of right arrow jacks. The up jacks shouldn't be -as- hard as jacks on exterior arrows (the left and right) assuming a normal spread position, because your index fingers are stronger. So in actuality, the song is really quite one-sided.

                              Despite the jacks, I still think it's a 9, and that's my opinion.

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                              • qqwref
                                stepmania archaeologist
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 4092

                                #3465
                                Re: Ingame Song Information

                                WC: That's pretty funny, because at the current rate OTFD will soon be the *easiest* 9 in game.

                                bmah: You're free to have an opinion, but I do think it's biased by too much speed.
                                Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                                Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                                Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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