US allows to detain suspects to crimes that have not been commited yet!

[PrawnSkunk]

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I <3 Change

[Yieldsign]

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Okay! we need to impeach Obama. Also we need to have our government print our money too (it would help with inflation)

LOL do you understand what inflation is? you're saying that printing more money would HELP inflation?

[AsphyxZero]

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Okay! we need to impeach Obama.

Yes.

Also we need to have our government print our money too (it would help with inflation)

Nope.

[Ninty64]

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I mean, should anyone be surprised? Would people be happy if the terrorists were given trial, found not guilty for lack of evidence and sent on their way?

^This.

[Yieldsign]

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come on, if you guys really think that any realistic presidential candidate is going to make a serious difference to the economic and social climate of america, then you're delusional. maybe someone like dennis kuchinich could have done something interesting, but yeah.. there's a reason why he didn't make the primary.

[OrganisM]

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This thread reminds me how stupid the great majority of you are.

Come back when you've completed a high-school level government class and have any idea what is going on. If you trust (a single source within) the media to provide you with the entire story, you've got a long way to go. It's particularly saddening that Maddow would produce such a turd of a segment. Give me a clip of one of your speeches, and I can turn a speech about planting daisies into how you want to gangbang squirrels.

[kommisar]

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This is why people should love Obama and hate canada's CONSERVATIVE SHITSTORM

HDI:

4. United States 0.902 ( ^9)
8.Canada 0.888 ( v4)


nah i'm just mad

[Mans0n]

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^This.

But doesn't the thought of the government throwing you away into some prison for doing absolutely nothing scare you? Because when they start doing these things a huge scale there going to use excuses like, ''terrorism prevention'' and or ''crime prevention'' which is utter bs.



USA is now a police state which sadly doesn't surprise me because I've seen this coming for a while now.

[Reincarnate]

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This thread reminds me how stupid the great majority of you are.

Come back when you've completed a high-school level government class and have any idea what is going on. If you trust (a single source within) the media to provide you with the entire story, you've got a long way to go. It's particularly saddening that Maddow would produce such a turd of a segment. Give me a clip of one of your speeches, and I can turn a speech about planting daisies into how you want to gangbang squirrels.

It's not stupid to question the government when shit like this hits the fan -- otherwise you end up with bombshells like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp4vLBvU1bA

aka "We won't explain anything to you because we're here to protect YOU against THEM -- you have to just trust us (even if we're breaking the law)"

Loopholes and lack of safeguards can be extremely, extremely dangerous. We've seen it time and time again with the way our Constitution gets knocked with respect to gay rights, the way our financial system collapsed as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis and deregulated derivatives, etc. It's important that new systems are rigorous enough to not allow for deleterious reactivity. It is by no means stupid to question if this is the case because it's an extremely relevant concern.

The problem with indefinite detention is that the war against terrorism is more or less endless. Terrorism is an amorphous beast in itself, and you don't want such a high-risk legal system put into place that may hit an error regarding mistaken identity. Obama has basically mentioned that this framework is really put forth with the goal of correctly handling the Guantanamo detainees and to hold those who have made it clear that they have received terrorist training/pledged allegiance to terrorist organizations/aim to kill Americans/etc.

That's fine and all, but the problem is whether or not this system would be used as narrowly as Obama implies. It's a tradeoff between legal rigor and slackened guidelines -- which carry the problems of either letting a legitimate threat to America go free or increasing a probability of false positives. All Obama is saying is that they're trying very hard to find the proper system to minimize these problems on both sides of the coin.

[bluguerrilla]

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You know that's not what he meant. :P


Whatever Obama does about it he's screwed - is basically my point.

The fact that he's still doing something about it makes me think a little better of him.

****ing liberals ****ing conservatives

[star reaper]

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LOL do you understand what inflation is? you're saying that printing more money would HELP inflation?

I was only saying that if the government printed the money which should be controlled by the people we would have less. New money could be made that is different from the old ones and used because if done right gold could back up each bill made by the U.S.A. though it was just a thought

[Mans0n]

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I was only saying that if the government printed the money which should be controlled by the people we would have less. New money could be made that is different from the old ones and used because if done right gold could back up each bill made by the U.S.A. though it was just a thought

I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me.. If the U.S reprinted a new type of currency to replace our current one, that would be a serious shitload of printing.

plus that isn't going to happen, because pretty soon the dollar won't be the reserve currency. If you pay attention to the times you would see that the majority of other countries want to get away from the dollar without jeopardizing there stock value.

[ddr_f4n]

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This is why people should love Obama and hate canada's CONSERVATIVE SHITSTORM

p.much

[star reaper]

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I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me.. If the U.S reprinted a new type of currency to replace our current one, that would be a serious shitload of printing.

plus that isn't going to happen, because pretty soon the dollar won't be the reserve currency. If you pay attention to the times you would see that the majority of other countries want to get away from the dollar without jeopardizing there stock value.

No, I'm talking about the fact that the government does not print American money. If America did, we could have all of the money backed up or fortified with gold instead of gold barely existing behind each dollar. So the amount of money people would need should go down. (hence inflation would come down since the dollar would represent gold more instead of the Federal Reserve over making money to cause inflation which is less gold existing behind the dollar) Money would have more value making less needed to be printed. This is all from my understanding of things though so i could be wrong.

[Reincarnate]

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