9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

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  • Industreal
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 19

    #16
    Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

    It's going to suck without Mr. Final Fantasy and Nobuo. It would suck anyways, but those are the main points.

    This only shows Square Enix is one of the worst RPG developers out there. Every game they've made has been terrible, so they go back to a game that was a huge selling point for them at the time (Soft, that is) to try and make a pretty penny.

    They need to let the whole Final Fantasy series die already and focus on making actually good games.

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    • DarkbearX
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      • Feb 2006
      • 1995

      #17
      Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

      I would rather them make Chrono Break. Square sucks.
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      • Hudelf
        FFR Veteran
        • Aug 2007
        • 93

        #18
        Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

        Originally posted by Industreal
        This only shows Square Enix is one of the worst RPG developers out there. Every game they've made has been terrible, so they go back to a game that was a huge selling point for them at the time (Soft, that is) to try and make a pretty penny.

        They need to let the whole Final Fantasy series die already and focus on making actually good games.
        Funny how they're practically the largest RPG developer in the world, and have made acclaimed game after award-winning game after top-selling game, and yet you say they never make anything good. Your personal preferences aren't universal my friend.

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        • eastsideman09
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          FFR Simfile Author
          • Dec 2006
          • 1746

          #19
          Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

          Originally posted by Afrobean
          Final Fantasy 7 is 99% overrated. The only reason you guys love it is because it was your first (or one of your first) RPGs, and DEFINITELY your first 3D RPG. If the exact game had instead come out today under another title (that is to say, NOT a Final Fantasy game), it wouldn't receive ANY attention at all, except maybe something to the effect of "wow that new square enix game is nothing special."
          so very wrong.

          this game had been revolutionary in the series, with the graphics and all, and it probably got the most attention, and was the most popular of the games in that series at the time... and without that added attention and sparked intrest in FF games, whos to say final fantasy would be nearly as recognized if FF7 wasnt released as an FF game?

          it was my first RPG ever, and i played every FF game after that....and it remains to be my favorite to this day.... the graphics are pretty much the only thing that would need changing



          Originally posted by Industreal
          This only shows Square Enix is one of the worst RPG developers out there. Every game they've made has been terrible, so they go back to a game that was a huge selling point for them at the time (Soft, that is) to try and make a pretty penny.

          They need to let the whole Final Fantasy series die already and focus on making actually good games.
          Originally posted by Hudelf
          Funny how they're practically the largest RPG developer in the world, and have made acclaimed game after award-winning game after top-selling game, and yet you say they never make anything good. Your personal preferences aren't universal my friend.

          ninja'd. but hudelf is exactly right....

          besides, why WOULDNT you continue a series thats successful? especially if it gets you money? itd be stupid NOT to continue with it....
          Last edited by eastsideman09; 09-17-2007, 05:36 PM.
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          • Shamo0
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2006
            • 424

            #20
            Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

            Originally posted by Industreal
            It's going to suck without Mr. Final Fantasy and Nobuo. It would suck anyways, but those are the main points.

            This only shows Square Enix is one of the worst RPG developers out there. Every game they've made has been terrible, so they go back to a game that was a huge selling point for them at the time (Soft, that is) to try and make a pretty penny.

            They need to let the whole Final Fantasy series die already and focus on making actually good games.
            No this only shows Square Enix pays attention to what there fans want. They care about their fans and we care about them.

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            • MixMasterLar
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              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5401

              #21
              Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

              So I guess I need to go ahead and play the first FF7 now.....

              hate to be too far behind...

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              • evilbutterfly
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 5784

                #22
                Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                Guys, just cuz you sell a lot of games doesn't mean you're a good company or that your games are good. Just look at EA. Horrible company. Horrible watered down versions of what should be good games. Just horrible. Yet people still buy their ****. >=(

                whos to say final fantasy would be nearly as recognized if FF7 wasnt released as an FF game?
                You're missing the point. He's saying that if some other company (other than square) made a nearly exact copy of FF7 (but didn't call it FF7 or name the characters and things the same) and released it today that people would think it was horrible. Even update the graphics and people would be like psh that sucks. Then again it's kinda a bad arguement, since just about any game from those days would be hated these days. The arguement is only against them releasing the exact same game, which is probably what they'll do (and probably what everybody wants them to do).

                Honestly though, I don't see what FF7 did that was so great. Some of the story was kinda funny, which was nice, but I've heard that basically every other RPG has better story and is funnier and awesomer. As far as gameplay, what was new about it? ATB was a FF thing from long before 7. The materia thing.....well you can't just release a game with the same skill system as everybody else. They change skill systems every game in the FF series, so saying that materia was a big deal is like saying that Halo having different guns than CS is a big deal.

                Honestly, the only things people ever rave about when it comes to FF7 are 1) Graphics, 2) Story, and 3) Materia. Graphics are a natural advancement, that's not innovation. Plus it wasn't the first 3D game or even the first 3D RPG, so whatever. The story was...well, maybe good for it's time, I dunno, but other things have come out with much better stories. And materia I already talked about, they had to make that special. I dunno, it wasn't a TERRIBLE game, especially compared to other FF games, but honestly now, was it really that great? =\
                So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                And I write the blog for their website.

                Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                • eastsideman09
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                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1746

                  #23
                  Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                  Originally posted by evilbutterfly
                  Guys, just cuz you sell a lot of games doesn't mean you're a good company or that your games are good. Just look at EA. Horrible company. Horrible watered down versions of what should be good games. Just horrible. Yet people still buy their ****. >=(
                  its obvious you dont like EA.... lol.... but if theyre selling alot, wouldnt you think that the majority of the buyers would think the opposite of this?


                  Originally posted by evilbutterfly
                  You're missing the point. He's saying that if some other company (other than square) made a nearly exact copy of FF7 (but didn't call it FF7 or name the characters and things the same) and released it today that people would think it was horrible.
                  well, IF a game came out now thats basically the same, there would be more than that judgement.... sure, people would think its bad, but not EVERYONE.... some would LOVE it, especially if they loved FF7.... others would think it sucks because it was too similar to FF7 (provided both were released; if FF7 was never released, and then this hypothetical game was, i think it would still get some recognition, the amount varying on who released it....)


                  Originally posted by evilbutterfly
                  Honestly though, I don't see what FF7 did that was so great. Some of the story was kinda funny, which was nice, but I've heard that basically every other RPG has better story and is funnier and awesomer.
                  not from what ive played... then again, all ive played is FF .... i think FF7 has the best story.... its my opinion, and you have yours


                  Originally posted by evilbutterfly
                  As far as gameplay, what was new about it? ATB was a FF thing from long before 7. The materia thing.....well you can't just release a game with the same skill system as everybody else.
                  ATB wasnt new, but i think what made materia a little more special than just a skill system is how it related to the storyline, with the Mako and how if they continued to use it, it would drain the worlds energy....

                  other FF games dont have a skill system that connects to the story like that, from what ive played....


                  EDIT***

                  oh yeah, forgot to mention.... CANT WAIT FOR THE REMAKE
                  Last edited by eastsideman09; 09-17-2007, 07:19 PM. Reason: BTW
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                  • Tps222
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 6169

                    #24
                    Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                    Well, I don't care for FF debates.

                    I don't see how the hell this game was "confirmed", if anything, it's just increased speculation.

                    Regardless, I've never played FF7. I tried, but I can't get past the lego-esque graphics when I try playing it today. Maybe if they updated it so it was bearable to look at, I'd get it.


                    Oh wait I need a PS3 first.

                    ****.

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                    • dAnceguy117
                      new hand moves = dab
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 10097

                      #25
                      Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                      I haven't played FF7, and I very rarely play RPGs, but

                      Originally posted by Industreal
                      This only shows Square Enix is one of the worst RPG developers out there. Every game they've made has been terrible, so they go back to a game that was a huge selling point for them at the time (Soft, that is) to try and make a pretty penny.
                      seems like a completely unfounded argument. I've heard about so much anticipation for a remake from a humongous fanbase that, since it's taken so long for this to happen, it seems to me like Squeenix was reluctant to go through with this. Considering they're such a huge and well-renowned RPG developing company (isn't the Dragon Quest franchise supposed to be great or something?), and considering how wildly successful the FF series has been, I don't see why they'd need to do something like this just for money.

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                      • eastsideman09
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                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1746

                        #26
                        Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                        Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                        and considering how wildly successful the FF series has been, I don't see why they'd need to do something like this just for money.
                        if you can get the money, why wouldnt you? i sure as hell would be trying to get the most out of it :P
                        Originally posted by dAnceguy117
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                        • zidart
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 964

                          #27
                          Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                          Originally posted by eastsideman09
                          if you can get the money, why wouldnt you? i sure as hell would be trying to get the most out of it :P
                          QFT.

                          sure final fantasy 7 was not very innovative, but seriously a game doesn't really need to be innovative to be good.

                          but anyway a remake is not what im looking for, i want more sequels xD (but please no more dirge of cerberus, and no more psp games)

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                          • MarukuAntoni
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                            • Apr 2007
                            • 521

                            #28
                            Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                            thatd be cool i think. but you know what news i want to hear. if not answered already, i want to hear square's answer on the rinoa/ultimecia theory. is rinoa really ultimecia? i dont believe so, but for the many still debating, square's comment would put an end to all that.
                            IF I CAN CLIMB A TREE, I CAN CLIMB MT EVEREST. IF I CAN DRIVE A CAR, I CAN PILOT A SPACE SHUTTLE. IF I CAN PEE, I CAN BE THE PRESIDENT. IF I CAN POO, I CAN RULE THE WORLD!

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                            • Ichigo_K
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 65

                              #29
                              Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                              Wasn't this confirmed at the end of Crisis? And what pissed me off was that I was waiting for it to be like "Coming Soon", but alas, sadly it did not appear. . .

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                              • zidart
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 964

                                #30
                                Re: 9/17/07*** Final Fantasy 7 Remake!! Confirmedd

                                Originally posted by MarukuAntoni
                                thatd be cool i think. but you know what news i want to hear. if not answered already, i want to hear square's answer on the rinoa/ultimecia theory. is rinoa really ultimecia? i dont believe so, but for the many still debating, square's comment would put an end to all that.
                                that always hunts me XD and also i wanna see finally cloud falling in love with tifa

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