The New "Religion"

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I agree, wholeheartedly, and that's why the whole "NO RELIGION IN SCHOOLSS!!1!1!" movement pisses me off.

How about a no forcing your atheist ideas movement in schools? If people want to claim they want a live-and-let-live-world, they better start to live it themselves.

That is something i agree with. I am in a way living this world, i'm not really relegious, and i really dont care either. people were given the choice of relegion and most people should respect that choice, rather it be a devout one or an aeithest one. and on that note, people should mind their own business instead of trying to judge someone because they dont beleive the same morals as he/she does.

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and im not saying this in a way that should piss anyone off about aeithiest beleifs or not. but some people should just mind their business.

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damn straight!

[Laharl]

Damn Straight what? That seems to have come from nowhere.

[jewpinthethird]

Kids arent taught atheistic believes, they are taught science. Mainly due to the fact that scientists are able, for the most part, to get their stories straight and not cause wars over what they think is right.

[Anonymous]

Kids arent taught atheistic believes, they are taught science. Mainly due to the fact that scientists are able, for the most part, to get their stories straight and not cause wars over what they think is right.

I am going to have to disagree.

Teaching Science is one thing, teaching evolution is another.

Science is Chemistry, Physics, AND Biology. And bio is pretty cool too, except when it comes to discussing macro-evolution.

Macro-evolution is the theory that we came from little cells which came from Amino Acids. That is a theory explaining how life was created (which every religion has too). The theory also states there is no God. That sounds like pressing Atheism to me.

and the sad part was, when I was in Bio, we spent 1/2 the time talking about the big bang, and humans that are 1/2 monkey. The other 1/2 was cool (micro-evolution, anatomy, ...)

And when has christianity not had it's story straight? (please give examples, and make them semi-recent)

And when was the last time christianity started a war??? (it was quite a long time ago)

But please respond with your answers, (especially on the latter 2)

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There was a really good discussion about this on my band's forum
www.onlyhuman.tk (go to the "God Sucks" thread, and scroll a little ways down)

[Varia]

No religion has ever had it's story straight.

Biggest examples; the bible and corruption in church officials.

[Anonymous]

Without religion ever existing this world would actually be a better place...I think the best religious preference is to respect the Earth you live on adn respect life in all it's forms. I think that worshipping some omipresent omnipotent super-power is ridiculous...It just goes to show how dependant the human psyche is on thinking there's someone to watch over them.

[Specforces]

Religion is probably a greater centripetal force than a centrifugal force my friends, thus, this is why it is good, to control the idiot masses. Religion was capitalized thousands of years ago by philosopher kings, crafted for the control of many. Foresight into the next 4 thousand years, however, was apparently not their specialty. Noone took into account the rapid learning that took place. Now some people are a little bit smarter and refuse to accept the idea of submission to a higher power in exchange for paradise after life. Religon is control at it's best..... think about it.

[fusi0n]

At first I thought, if I were Superman, a perfect secret identity would be "Clark Kent, Dentist," because you could save money on tooth X-rays. But then I thought, if a patient said, "How's my back tooth?" and you just looked at it with your X-ray vision and said, "Oh it's okay," then the patient would probably say, "Aren't you going to take an X-ray, stupid?" and you'd say, "Aw fuck you, get outta here," and then he probably wouldn't even pay his bill.

[Specforces]

Deep thoughts by Jack Handy hardly constitute as an arguement for or against religion fusi0n.

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

If you want to learn about holes in the Catholic religion...read

Sic et Non by Peter Abelard. I haven't read it, however we just learned that it pointed out many holes in the bible today.

[Anonymous]

You can keep going on about christianity keeping people in check, but I don't think it's that at all. I guess you wouldn't understand, but when you truly feel God's presence, it is a VERY real thing. I don't base my faith on anything except the fact that I KNOW God exists, not because anyone has told me, but because I have literally walked beside him, and had conversations with him.

I know I might sound crazy, but I am dead serious.


also...

No religion has ever had it's story straight.

Biggest examples; the bible and corruption in church officials.

The bible is consideres the only religious text that never contradicts itself. Give me examples (verses) of where the bible contradicts itself. If you want to discuss a point, you should have direct knowledge of it, not something a friend told you (thats called a rumor).

I have studied atheism a LOT. Now I am ok if if you're athiest, but please know your stuff before you go off bashing religion.

[Anonymous]

Sorry for the double post.

I think I am goingto read Sic et Non.

Now I have a book to suggest people to read

It's called "A Case for Faith" by Lee Strobel. Lee was an Athiest journalist. One of his friends told him about christianity, and Lee though he shouldn't be so closed minded to reject him, so he went on a little quest to find out why christians believe what they believe. Well, lee interviews athiests, christians, christians who became athiest, athiests who became christians, and really tries (hard as he might) to keep neutral.

[VxDx]

saying that you've "walked beside" god and talked to him is bullshit. By your logic, I could say that when I vividly dream about anything, it really happened becuase, in my mind, I did it. Using that as the basis of your faith is interesting, but you still are blindly believing in something that has no more basis in reality than a simple dream.

[Omeganitros]

The bible is consideres the only religious text that never contradicts itself. Give me examples (verses) of where the bible contradicts itself. If you want to discuss a point, you should have direct knowledge of it, not something a friend told you (thats called a rumor).

I believe the Bible has a passage in it somewhere that basically says not to take the Bible so seriously. Not exactly a contradiction, but... Works well enough.

[Laharl]

I think the thread has turned into such that it proves what I've been getting at.

In today's world, if you are religious at all, you are considered "stupid" and wrong.

[makaveli121212]

yeah thats just ignorance on everyones part...to put down someone because of his/her religion is the most ignorant thing to do...i dont think if youre religous you are considered stupid...it works both ways, if you arent religous some people will call you stupid...theres is never any point about arguing over religion, it leads nowhere and no one ever wins

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So I'm christian I believe there is God in heaven.

But that's about it, carry on....

Purple Player.

[jewpinthethird]

Originally Posted by hardcoreChristian.class

I am going to have to disagree.

Teaching Science is one thing, teaching evolution is another.

Science is Chemistry, Physics, AND Biology. And bio is pretty cool too, except when it comes to discussing macro-evolution.

Macro-evolution is the theory that we came from little cells which came from Amino Acids. That is a theory explaining how life was created (which every religion has too). The theory also states there is no God. That sounds like pressing Atheism to me.

and the sad part was, when I was in Bio, we spent 1/2 the time talking about the big bang, and humans that are 1/2 monkey. The other 1/2 was cool (micro-evolution, anatomy, ...)

And when has christianity not had it's story straight? (please give examples, and make them semi-recent)

And when was the last time christianity started a war??? (it was quite a long time ago)

But please respond with your answers, (especially on the latter 2)

No where in the theory does it state that there is not God. That is just a common belief among those who believe the theory to be true.

I dont know what you were doing in Biology talking about the Big Bang which doesnt have anything to do with life science.

I wasnt referring to christianity starting wars, I was referring to religion as a whole. 9-11/Afghanistan, enough said.

LEVITICUS 21:13
"If man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a women, both of them have committed an abnomination: they shall surely be put to death: their blood shall fall upon them"

Case outlawing homosexuals to marry, not only that, but the endorsement of killing homosexuals.

LEVITICUS 21:21
And the man that committeht adultery with another man's wife,[restatment], the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."

Case outlawing adultery, though there are no laws against it now (save premaritally agreements, which only take effect after divorce.)

If Bush passes a law to outlaw gay marriages, then he must pass a law against Adulters.

As I have said, I have nothing against religious folk. They just need to lighten up a little.