Christianity and Control

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Originally Posted by Grandiagod

It's part of Christianity, I can use the arguement even if it applies to other groups.

You're creating your argument like it is some special tenant of Christianity that makes it much, much worse... That is why I brought it up. Furthermore, I'm not telling you that it applies to any group, it applies to all groups. It is a completely instinctual human tendency.

Since when do high school social experiments count? I'm discussing doctrine and control techniques, not whether your high school class thinks I will go to hell.

And I'm presenting anecdotal evidence gathered from a pseudorandom cluster of Christians that reject a claim you presented. I'm trying to keep you from stepping into a fallacious reductio ad absurdium argument.

Did you read my response to this exact statement?

Yes and I rebutted it later. I'm glad to see you took time to digest the whole post before responding.

And this matters why? Just because Christianity isn't the only one doing it doesn't mean I can't bring it up, that's ridiculous.

I think it reveals some pathos-driven edge in your argument. You pigeonhole many traits that could be placed upon any religion or group onto just Christianity, and this shows an implicit disdain for Christianity precluding the validity your arguments.

First of all, ingnorance for the sake of bliss is a bad thing.

Proof beyond claim? I would actually argue otherwise but that is another issue entirely.

Second of all, it's not a generalization. Using the "Bible" (throwing that back at ya) you have to be a born again Christian to get to heaven, otherwise it's hell time.

Using your "The Bible isn't the arbiter of Christianity" proposition, many Christians believe that accepting Christ is not the only route to get into heaven.

Sooooo, it's not so much what the Bible says as how the modern Christian is taught to believe. Pastors pray to the millions on television, churches all pray en masse. That's a fact.

You have horribly misinterpreted the quote. It addresses proseltyzing other sects, not other Christians. Pastors praying to millions in television or in Church pray to an audience that chooses to listen.

So only some parts of the Bible are to be believed?

Yes, actually.

In it's purest form, yes. However Christianity has become much more than a moral compass.

Of course. Only a nihilist could accept a moral compass that is presented as only a moral compass. You have to wrap and dress it up for the general public to digest it

Only if all the people believe in the same moral compass. Besides, unneeded morality can become restrictive.

How so? In a homogeneous cluster, no morality can become unrestrictive.