TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I would like to kind of apologize for making the thread about Freezin v me yesterday
I won't get super into detail about it, but both roundbox and freezin are right about specific things

roundbox is right that we fought a lot about small things to the point of pettiness and that's not good.

freezin is right that tunneling is p terrible for town when its t/t and I was so in the tunnel yesterday that I called him wolfy for giving me a tom brady avatar and for posting something predrafted

I, as usual, will reset my reads from d0. I will attempt to not let my previous read on Freezin dictate this phase too much. I must admit that a full reset is pretty hard and that I do still think his (re)vote of me is full of holes but

he posted a shitton more than I've ever seen him do as a wolf, and honestly, I should give him some benefit for doing so

I'm not sure what to think otherwise (yet)
I feel like I cleared someone too easily yesterday, like I get the feeling that someone is being overlooked by myself right now

since I am on spring break I'll spend a lot of tomorrow working on rereading the thread and making hopefully a much better reads list this time around because I will admit that my last one was subpar

I agree that discussions about the last PR and what it likely is etc etc should stop immediately

the last PR will do whatever they think is best

Haku, I understand that a lot of my previous phase was spent being defensive, and the reason for this is because I was the top wagon for I think over half the phase. The reason that I was defensive is not because new players were calling me out or something like that, its because I (felt like) I had to do what I did. I agree that a lot of time was spent chastising my own wagon rather than trying to convince people not to vote me, but I do think that

a) Freezin and I were past the point of no return for d0
b) Tokzic was inactive and I wasn't going to be able to convince him
c) lito is a robot and he has the mentality of Lynch All Liars, and I was being tunneled for what I would call a white lie even though I guess its not really one
d) You (I thought) voted me for pressure and nothing else

I did provide my thoughts on the game
I have been trying to solve the game as much as I ever do on d0 (don't need to hit a home run on d0 just need to find a wolf)

I think pairing myself and litodude is kind of ridiculous because of how hard he tunneled on me, and I think he honestly would've gotten less flack if he was a wolf for voting someone other than me for as long as he did given that it was apparent that people thought his reason for voting me was not a great one

I will be attempting to solve this game today and if you are town I hope that you see that

lastly, choof has had a good re-entrance imo (thumb)

Sunfan re entrance slightly towny. I dont think he'd tunnel here as either alignment, after last game, so the bits about Freezin posting so much and sunfan's reset attempt don't get as many town points as they would elsewhere.
I did like him bringing up choof, because he seemed focused on that at the end of last phase.

Sunfan, can you clarify a) and c) for me?
Why was it the point of no return? You said that several times yesterday, but oftentimes exploring other reads and pulling out of a thunderdome is smarter than staying in it (as evidenced by last game, I'd say).
Also what was the little white lie?