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Old 06-20-2016, 07:44 PM   #10
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Default Re: Milo's post-Orlando speech, 100% worth watching

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intensely delusional apologia
I love this diagnosis

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the number of sources that convey his connection to both islam and islamic culture up to the day of the shooting are immense. I don't know where you're getting this from, but this is a hugely dishonest thing to say, especially given what is already known about british muslims and homophobia and the beliefs mateen's father imparted on him, including mateen's comments post-shooting
Hopefully you are able to understand that there is a difference between "a religion teaches homophobia" and "a person who follows this religion is necessarily homophobic" and "a person who follows this religion is going to murder people"

I'm willing to accept a correlation between the first two. But bringing in -murder- is a different issue altogether.

And before you bring up ISIS, that there is a difference between terrorists and people practicing a religion

Where I am getting this from is actual data about American mass shootings



Sorry this image is from the same source --- they compiled the data into a picture

This is just from 2015, but you can find statistics from even further back.

Currently Muslims make up 1% of the US population.

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this is an enormous simplification when many "mass shootings" of this same type in 3rd world countries have nothing in common except religious ideology
I thought we were talking about American shootings

and yeah P.S. there's a difference between the Middle East and America not just in religious denomination, but the intensity of the teachings, the fact that the governments often enforce those teachings, and a whole slew of things.

surprise, I actually despise religious idealogy like that. I find homophobia detestable, and the fact that Eastern gvts. enforce the death sentence is one of the biggest procedural travesties committed in modern society.


The issue I have with this is that there is a difference between hating a religion and hating people who celebrate that religion and assuming they are out to get you.

Literally in the first minute he makes the "argument" "hey yeah Muslims want to kill all of the other minorities."

No, not really. In the East, sure. But this is not the East, and to assume that "they think homophobia is punishable by death over there, so they coming over here are going to take matters into their own hands" is a different case altogether.

I won't disagree with you on the "idealistic dysmorphia" part, but again, this man was able to legally buy a gun

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> Do I believe in concealed carry?

it wouldn't matter if you "believed" in it
then what was the point of posting this speech if you didn't care about convincing people about concealed carry.

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instead of "fuck milo", fuck you for acting like it is not a thing unique to religious doctrine that I could be put to death in 10 or so countries which all happen to be heavily influenced by islamic doctrine
I say "fuck Milo" because this isn't the first time he's said something I disagree with, I generally find him an arrogant, hateful shitlord

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think long and hard about whether you're going to reply again after admitting you haven't even watched the whole fucking thing, given that the latter half of the video gives pertinent statistical information

the likelihood of you saying anything valuable after this without even knowing the subject matter you're addressing is nonexistent

if you aren't even going to use baseline levels of competence to make a reply, just don't. no one needs to hear what you have to say. they're probably even better off for not hearing it.
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