What keeps you using 3.95?

[Jousway]

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

Kyze and Jousway somehow managed to alienate 95% on SM's userbase in this threat.

wow thanks for proofing me right, another great example of being an ignorant player, there are a ton of pad players that play stepmania on pad, heck the piu stuff in south america is p big I would more say 50% is sm keyboard user base as in ffr because thats excluding a bunch of asian and south american communities because they mostly play pad or piu but what do I expect from a ignorant MURICAN huehue

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

Just thought I would say a couple things:

Kyze, when you say that you won't test shit that is only for windows because windows sucks etc.... That's the MAJORITY of the community your bias is alienating. You're programming for a game that is played MOSTLY by PC players, not by your Linux fan club.

lawl calling windows "PC" o ok, anyways kyz is a linux developer its his own choice to not use windows there is nothing forcing him to use/develop for windows most people that work on stepmania make stuff for them selfs and besides why would he care about shitty little ignorant children like you that go HERPDERP 3.95 IS BEST EVER FAPFAPFAPFAP, its just not worth anyones time

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

Jousway, the "ignorant keyboard players" you speak of, that's the majority of your fucking target audience, and when you guys make a threat to convince people to that SM5 is better, faster, shinier, whatever the fuck, you sure as hell better be ready for some backslash.

read top part, also HERP DERP GUYS CHECK MY SCORE HOW BIG IS MY E-PENIS NOW? HUEHUE, remember when stepmania was about fun and not fucking scores, I do rip.

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

There ARE many reasons why people stopped updating SM after 3.9/3.95. It is not because we're dumb, Jous, it's because THE GAME FEELS DIFFERENT. I have been playing stepmania for longer than I would like to admit (okay, fuck it, 15 years) and, as a once active member of this community, I kept myself updated with the latest versions constantly. I was there when Josh and Charles released the CVS version of 3.9 and when they were very clear that it was a buggy build meant for online 4k play only.

Stepmania 4 felt odd and was buggy as shit. Stepmania 5 looks beautiful, but I just can't get myself to enjoy playing on it. I have a hard time with my timing, global offset is fucked up, I does not feel like the same game.

its just a slight timing you need to get used to and a ton of people have, its like switching from beatmania to lr2 its diffrent but calling the game shit (which some people do not saying u do) because its HERPDERP NOT THE SAME is stupid and I find it ignorant if people say 3.95 is "better" because its obvious not, its a random broken pull from the source code just to make online work, how is a broken version like that better, do people like insulting the devs that much?

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

I am currently trying (yet again, for the 4th time) to give SM5 another go... But it's not looking good. And I always keep my 3.95 CVS handy in case I pull the plug on SM5.

I appreciate all of your help and hard work, I really do. However, if Stepmania has any chance of coming back as game and a community, we need to start focusing on gameplay rather than "look how many obscure things I can do with this file/theme."

I agree with Izzy, Stepmania Online NEEDS to be a part of this development. Take a look at osu!, the way the game works, the multiplayer rooms, song choices, available to download at the click of a button. Why can't we have this with Stepmania? Charles and Josh stopped working on the SMO server script years ago, hoku added important features (and now he's gone)... Why don't you guys pick up where they left off and modernize Stepmania so that it's actually a suitable multiplayer game for this day and age?

meanwhile osu has spyware that takes screenshots of your pc LOLOLOLOLOLOL
anyways sm6 is going to be a complete overhaul in a different engine, so expect better online functionality, it wont be sm5 or 3.95 so the timing will be different again but hey who cares, we all know how you guys are going to react already

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

I understand the importance of the SSC team in keeping Stepmania alive. But remember that the thing that's kept this game alive for so long is the same thing you two are trying to alienate in this thread; community.

one person from the SSC even gave up on sm becasue of how toxic this and a few other communities are, just sayin

Originally Posted by Dj_Ossa

Hopefully we can do something to ensure this game we all love and respect begins to grow again, in a positive way.

Until then, don't complain if people prefer the buggy playable past over the shiny new things that doesn't feel like our game.

like I said, its like comparing beatmania to lr2 the timing is different and you just have to get use to it, but sticking to an inferior broken version just blows my mind, even 3.9+ makes more sense