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Old 08-20-2005, 01:16 PM   #15
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Though it is true about the red shifts and stuff and how everything used to be at one point some 14 bil years ago
this one point, isnt just one point anymore, its not like a center, the universe doesnt have center or edges

Thats a nice pic Jam =) but the problem is that theres nothing outside the universe, we define the universe to contain everything

The universe could be infinite > but evidence points against it. The redshift and things moving apart point towards things originating from a point. If it orignated at a point and then started expanding, it has to be finite (and expanding)

now we cant have an edge to the universe, because what would be behind it, by def, the universe contains everything, so there's nothing behind it, there is no edge, and if theres no edge, there's no center.

This is what leads us to the 4D explanation, how can something have no edge or center but still be finite. It's one of Mr. Einstein's postulates, there is no almighty reference point, all reference points are equal. A center to the universe would also mean that its an almighty reference point, so if you were to go there, you would basically be cutting the last 100 years of physics, which has lots and lots of experimental back-up. Einstein wouldnt be so famous if they didn't.

So basically, if you want to find the place where the universe started, you dont have to look far, Its everywhere. When it expands, new space appears everywhere, its not like the edges move out, it just means that new space shows up everywhere, and the distance between things increases.

EDIT: While you have that picture, why dont you make the stuff outside of the universe green, because well, by definition it doesnt exist, so why not make it green, Green seems like a very, out there color =)
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