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Old 08-28-2009, 10:30 PM   #23
hayatewillown
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Default Re: Socialised Healthcare

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Originally Posted by kommisar[os] View Post
i guess canada could be considered a little socialist
Lol and canada is trying to leave their system, or at least the health care minister wants to. It's funny how people don't understand what it's like living in this country, as afro stated to have your rights stripped from you.

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hang on a second. are you arguing against nationalized healthcare being a good thing or against the policies Obama is enacting? Obama could do the ****tiest job in the world and it wouldn't be an argument against nationalized healthcare but the way Obama/the senate went about it.
Ok, first off, IF WE WANTED TO GO INTO SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE WE NEED TO FIX THE DAMN PROBLEMS WITH THE COUNTRY NOW.

LOOK: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

I'm preaching this for that fact that the way OBAMA is trying to fix the debt, which he has barely addressed in ANY of his speeches, is going to a SOCIALIZED health care. This drops an F bomb on medicaid, private insurance agencies, and on the FREE MARKET. Maybe Canada doesn't have a free market. I wouldn't know. But I'd be damn sure that if the Government gets big enough, it will interfere with the free market and competition would be eliminated because it's not "FAIR".

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on't government jobs count as jobs as well, or do they have to be provided by the Freemarket to count? Under nationalized healthcare, the doctors don't go away, the payment system between doctor and client is simply mediated by different people.
Even Obama said he wouldn't go underneath our health care. Nor will his Senate.

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, my personal experience is not changing my mind here.
That is completely ignorant, and the fact that you'd rather have lazy ass people living off the rich is asinine!

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I'm arguing mainly with afrobean because you have nothing worth arguing against hayate. Poor people shouldn't be taxed as much as rich people. I don't see how electricity costs for providing healthcare could magically go up without any need to actually be running more electricity. If they do, it would only be because the free market would make them that way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4


No they shouldn't be taxed as much. HOWEVER- Why should hardworking paid Americans (With real jobs..)have to pay more to support people who can improve their life but don't? Answer it, because clearly you have no idea how many people are actually at this state.
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