Socialised Healthcare

[hayatewillown]

Originally Posted by devonin

Well, the Adult population of the US was 210 million in 2001, so even if we call it 250,000,000, the US census department says that unemployment nationally was 5.8% in 2008.

5.8% of 250,000,000 adults is 14,500,000 unemployed adults. But there are currently 45,700,000 americans without healthcare. The reason the 45.7M is even as low as it is, is because of government increases to automatic health coverage for children, which means that a fairly large percentage of "Americans without healthcare" are also "Americans that are NOT unemployed"

So if they have -jobs- but still can't afford health coverage, it's not a matter of you "appreciat[ing] people who don't or can't make enough money to support themselves feeling entitled to **** that I earned."

People who don't care enough is one objection.
People who can't make enough are another kettle of fish entirely.

If you -are- working, and -are- contributing, and -are- paying your taxes and all that jazz, I and it seems the vast majority of my country and many other countries feel like you -are- entitled also to heath coverage.

So let me ask you this.
WHY should we, as Americans, as our constitution and our republic designed us, be dependent on the GOV'T for support? Why should we let them choose for us? The Bill has actions to be made. In order to keep your "INSURANCE", as the bill states, is if you pay more than 3000 dollars!! On top of being taxed!

You however, may not know what it's like. I don't know, but you seem pretty confident so I'll continue.

Big Gov't means that the goverment will be involved with EVERYTHING! That's the point of the bill! The Government will soon involve itself (It already has but you know,) into the market. Then, for "Fair" and "balanced" competition, they will regulate what certain restaurants and stores can sell! Then it's not a competition, but rather a form of socialized (if even) communism.

I don't think I'm making myself quite clear here...

We will lose all of our rights as Americans.
If there's one thing I can say, it's that the liberal/democratic party is bad at being a loser.

If you -are- working, and -are- contributing, and -are- paying your taxes and all that jazz, I and it seems the vast majority of my country and many other countries feel like you -are- entitled also to heath coverage.

I seem to remember a certain Darwins theory of survival in the question. BUT, there are also those who don't pay there taxes, who spend their money on illegal drugs, who spend others money on pork barrel projects. Yet these people deserve health care?

Also, I recall a certain group of people.. oh what was the name... SEIU?

This UNION has over 400 MILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer money that the government has given to them, yet they won't spend a freaking dime to insure their employees! And these very same people go to the Senate Town hall meetings and harass Conservatives for free speech and for saying that they don't agree with their representative.